Re: Oil Shale Resources - Alternative for Gasoline

[John McEwen <moparrr@xxxxxxx>]

Ralph, unfortunately, times do change.  What was 'reasonable' 30 
years ago is still reasonable today.  Why should anyone sell his 
product below cost or below market value as set by the New York stock 
exchange?  If you're still earning the same number of dollars now as 
you did in 1975 you might have a point.  We pay more for fuel than 
you do, and there are producing gas and oil wells within a mile of my 
home.   and the price of crude is determined in New York - not 
Canada.  These things are determined by the North American Free Trade 
Agreement.

We're talking about a non-renewable resource.  We can't plant more of it.

What I was referring to originally is the oil sands of NE Alberta 
where billions and billions of dollars have been spent on research, 
development and production of synthetic crude which now represents 
the largest source of crude oil in Canada from any source and will 
soon be the largest production in North America as more and more 
conventional oil disappears.

If you use natural gas to heat your home, it probably came from here. 
We've been supplying gas to the Pacific Northwest and the Midwest for 
probably 40 - 50 years.  The big problem is that most people still 
assume that all of those resources come from Texas, Louisiana or 
Pennsylvania (where there has been no crude oil for decades).  Mexico 
is running out of crude now.

Like the song goes in Ghostbusters, "Who you gonna call?".

Don't get me started on forestry and agriculture.  Have you noticed 
the much lower prices for lumber and beef in the US lately?

John


> Yep,  I suppose most do know about the abundance of resources in Canada.
> If they would just put it on the market for reasonable then we could talk a
> little rougher to those middle east suppliers about the price of gas.
> Canadians don't seem to waiver in our winds very much.  Maybe they will
> share some of it later on when they can make a "good" profit on it.
>
> Once there are too many competing sources for motor fuel then is when we may
> see reasonable prices again brought about by the free markets and not
> affected so much by big greed and the controlling cartels or the major oil
> producers.  Too many major mergers and "big business" marketing and
> distribution controlling practices have been allowed by our government and
> regulators to the extent we seem to only have "cooperative competition"
> between our oil companies.  Of course they don't have the consumers best
> interest at heart.
>
> Maybe we can regulate this as public utilities or perhaps even Nationalize
> the industry.  Some countries do that with effectiveness seeming to protect
> their own.
>
> In the meanwhile, protect your manure piles (and your upwind real estate).
> Or maybe just skim some of that stuff off the Chicago River that used to
> catch on fire occasionally.
>
> Heck, there wil always be some solution...
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael K" <mek_19_99@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 5:41 PM
> Subject: Re: Oil Shale Resources - Alternative for Gasoline
>
>
> >  You may find it comforting that people like myself
> >  have learned about the untapped canadian shale oil
> >  from college.  However, in the US, Canada seems to us
> >  very liberal, and not willing to exploit the potential
> >  of shale for environmental concerns.
> >
> >
> >  --- John McEwen <moparrr@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >  > I find it kind of interesting to follow this  clipped>>>>>>>>>