Re: power steering pump replacement

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I guess they moved that too in or about 1969.
Figures. I am a bit perplexed with the reasoning for running the ground wire all the way back to the firewall. The actual Battery is closer as well as the Battery ground on the engine Etc; The only thing I can figure is corrosion resistance. They must have wanted the headlight ground as far from the wet as possible. Still AMC was frugal, you'd think they would want to save that .0002 cents per car by not running the extra wire!
Mark Price
mpriceAtwestco.net
Morgantown, WV
69 AMC rambler, 4.0L, EFI, 5 speed 
65 Ambassador Conv, 327 AUTO, Basketcase
01 S-10 CREWCRAP 4X4



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
Reply-To: mail-From-mprice-westco.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date:  Tue, 03 May 2005 21:25:42 -0400

>Jay,
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>My ground screw is at the blower motor (it's just a sheet metal screw on my 
>car). The dash lights also ground to that same spot.
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>Matt
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>At 07:07 PM 5/2/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>Another question Matt, where is the ground stud mounted on the body that 
>>is shown in the electrical sheet connected to the headlights?  Have you 
>>found yours on your car?
>>
>>Jay
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2005 8:50 PM
>>Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>>
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>>>Jay,
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>>>I don't have a stabilizer bar on mine either. My setup came from a 74 
>>>Hornet. I have a big aluminium bracket on top and a U channel on the 
>>>bottom going to another bracket on the block (you can see how mine's 
>>>installed at 
>>>http://www.mattsoldcars.com/RestoreAmerican/images/lines_pass_side.jpg). 
>>>I just took a quick look in the my 1968 TSM and it didn't show the pump 
>>>brackets for a six cylinder. I also didn't see an end-play spec in it or 
>>>the manual for my El Camino.
>>>
>>>Matt
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>>>At 05:54 PM 5/1/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>Matt,  I noticed in the TSM it shows a stabilizer bracket on the back of 
>>>>the resevoir, Mine is missing (maybe because this PS unit was added to 
>>>>the car by the prior owner. The car never came with PS from the 
>>>>factory.)  I have looked to see where the bracket woould mount to the 
>>>>block but it would have to be offset, nit straight like is show in the 
>>>>TSM.  There is no mention of the end play tolerance on the pulley shaft.
>>>>
>>>>Jay
>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>>>To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:51 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>>>>
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>>>>>Nope. The pumps are about $50, rebuilt gears about $150, and $25 is 
>>>>>about what both hoses run. BTW, 1/16th of an inch end play is still a 
>>>>>lot. Mine has no noticeable end-play (I'm sure there's some, TSM may 
>>>>>list it) as installed on the car with the belt on it.
>>>>>
>>>>>Matt
>>>>>
>>>>>At 06:36 PM 4/28/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>Is tghat a typo error, the $225.????
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jay
>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2005 8:42 PM
>>>>>>Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Anytime I can spread a little more sunshine, let me know! On the 
>>>>>>>slightly brighter side, a rebuilt pump, gear, and new hoses (you may 
>>>>>>>want to replace the rag joint at the same time-- get the GM one from 
>>>>>>>the Help section) is only about $225 (maybe less) and you'll end up 
>>>>>>>with a much nicer steering car. You could also swap in a quick ratio 
>>>>>>>box "while you're at it" for not much more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Matt
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>At 05:57 PM 4/27/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>YOu are so full of GOOD NEWS  Matt!   LOL.
>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:48 PM
>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Jay,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>If you have a 1/4 inch end play in the pump, it's toast. A rebuild 
>>>>>>>>>kit isn't going to have all the parts you need (they basically have 
>>>>>>>>>new seals and a shaft bushing). Rebuilt pumps are pretty 
>>>>>>>>>inexpensive (I think I paid less than $50 for mine). Your steering 
>>>>>>>>>gear is probably full of trash now as well and should be rebuilt or 
>>>>>>>>>replaced at the same time (it doesn't look like a difficult job to 
>>>>>>>>>rebuild one but you need a few special tools). It would probably 
>>>>>>>>>also be a good idea to replace the hoses to make sure they're not 
>>>>>>>>>full of trash as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Matt
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>At 10:13 PM 4/25/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>rebuild the steering gear?  I can move the pulley and the shaft it 
>>>>>>>>>>is mounted on about a 1/4 inch backward and forward. Is that normal?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Jay
>>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:29 PM
>>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Jay,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Rebuild kits for the Saginaw pumps are inexpensive (about $10) 
>>>>>>>>>>>and easy to install. A rattle may be from sticking rotor vanes or 
>>>>>>>>>>>it's possible that some other trash is in it (in which case you 
>>>>>>>>>>>should replace or rebuild the steering gear). Also, rebuilt pumps 
>>>>>>>>>>>are pretty easy to find and are likely to be in stock at better 
>>>>>>>>>>>parts places. There are two different reservoirs that were used 
>>>>>>>>>>>while AMC was around but the pumps are identical otherwise. The 
>>>>>>>>>>>only real issue you need to watch out for is that the pulley 
>>>>>>>>>>>attachment method is the same. The early style uses a bolt on 
>>>>>>>>>>>pulley and the later style uses a press on pulley (you need a 
>>>>>>>>>>>special tool to remove and install these).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Matt
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>At 05:50 PM 4/25/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hey Guys,  I have a PS pump that has a rattle in it at one speed 
>>>>>>>>>>>>(30 mph in high gear) and it is annoying, but I am concerned 
>>>>>>>>>>>>that it will fail just at the most inopportune minute.  Has 
>>>>>>>>>>>>anyone got replacement parts kits for these pumps. I guess there 
>>>>>>>>>>>>is more than one brand of pump. Where do I look to find out the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>manufacturer and model on the pump?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Jay
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>mhaas@xxxxxxx
>>>>>Cincinnati, OH
>>>>>http://www.mattsoldcars.com
>>>>>1967 Rambler American wagon
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>>>mhaas@xxxxxxx
>>>Cincinnati, OH
>>>http://www.mattsoldcars.com
>>>1967 Rambler American wagon
>>>1968 Rambler American sedan
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>>>UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
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>mhaas@xxxxxxx
>Cincinnati, OH
>http://www.mattsoldcars.com
>1967 Rambler American wagon
>1968 Rambler American sedan
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>UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
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