i'm gonna have the rear brakes on my '68 199 american worked over, and in the process i've gotten new wheel cylinders, true torque w50014. got em at advance. but my shop is complaining that they 'don't look like the cylinders in there' and understandably don't want to start the job and tie their lift up. they appear smaller. i've never heard of true torque; the bags say 'made in china'... but that number matches the wagner one, and the advance part list also showed the correct bendix number and both showed the correct 15/16" bore, so unless they wrongly boxed -both- cylinders i'm about as sure as i can that they are right. anyone have supporting evidence? mix into this that the rear brakes have been -just-a-little- touchy ever since last time i had the cylinders replaced, and though they [a different shop] swore they didn't, i've always wondered if they used the wrong cylinders. now the advance part selector is ****ing stupid... after asking me all the questions to narrow my model down, it proceeds to show -all- the brake parts for -all- the models! and if you were in a hurry and/or unscrupulous, you could easily think the bigger cylinders for the v8 10" brakes at 1/3 the cost were correct. i don't know if they physically fit though. -- btw rambler dan's '68 rambler parts page was a great help, but it's now at skidmore, not netheaven. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought