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Re: power steering pump replacement



OK, guys I may have exaggerated a bit on the end play on the pump shaft. I went out an actually measured it 3 times! and the play is only about a little more than 1/16 inch by my tape measure., I was "eyeballing" it
the first time the other day. My foolishness. Sorry. BUT I still have that rattle that seems to be coming from the pump pulley or thereabouts and it only happens in a very small range of RPM. For example, it only happens at 30mph , not 20 nor 40mph. when going 30mph it rattles constantly until I either let up on the gas or speed up above 30.



Jay


\----- Original Message ----- From: <farna@xxxxxxx>
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement



If you don't want to replace the steering gear and hoses just yet flush them real good. Get a gallon or two of diesel fuel and a bucket. The return line on the PS should be an unpressurized clamp on line. Take it loose at the pump and stick it in a bucket. You'll need a short piece of hose with a plug to put back on the pump. With the engine running start pouring diesel in the OLD pump. You might need someone to turn the steering wheel back and forth. Without a load the diesel won't hurt the steering gear, and it should flush most of the debris from it.

Hook the new pump up the same way, with the return hose in a bucket. Pour in a quart of cheap trans fluid (any type will do). Run that quart through the new pump and old steering gear to lube it back up good and get any pooled diesel fuel out. A small amount of diesel won't hurt anything, but will thin the PS fluid. To much could be a problem. After that flushes through reconnect. The steering gear may have some damage from the debris and have to be replaced later, but won't fail catostrophicly. It will just start to get play in it over time like manual steering. This will at least buy you a couple years, depending on how much you drive the car.

One more thing -- get some of the "Morey's Oil Stabilizer" and put about 8 ounces in the new PS pump. At least one rebuilder ships PS pumps with the stuff coating the insides! It will help, but don't use more than 15% of fluid volume. I think the pump, gear, and hoses hold about two quarts altogether. Put the rest in the engine or auto trans. A quart in the auto trans is almost like a shift kit in a bottle! I ALWAYS ran it in my BW M-35 for the last 5-6 years I had it and never had a problem. And I drove that car hard -- well, as hard as you can drive a hopped up 195.6 OHV!

On April 27, 2005 Jay Ciampi wrote:

YOu are so full of GOOD NEWS  Matt!   LOL.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement


> Jay,
>
> If you have a 1/4 inch end play in the pump, it's toast. A rebuild kit
> isn't going to have all the parts you need (they basically have new > seals
> and a shaft bushing). Rebuilt pumps are pretty inexpensive (I think I > paid
> less than $50 for mine). Your steering gear is probably full of trash > now
> as well and should be rebuilt or replaced at the same time (it doesn't
> look like a difficult job to rebuild one but you need a few special
> tools). It would probably also be a good idea to replace the hoses to > make
> sure they're not full of trash as well.
>
> Matt
>
> At 10:13 PM 4/25/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>rebuild the steering gear? I can move the pulley and the shaft it is
>>mounted on about a 1/4 inch backward and forward. Is that normal?
>>
>>Jay
>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Haas" <mhaas@xxxxxxx>
>>To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>Sent: Monday, April 25, 2005 8:29 PM
>>Subject: Re: power steering pump replacement
>>
>>
>>>Jay,
>>>
>>>Rebuild kits for the Saginaw pumps are inexpensive (about $10) and >>>easy
>>>to install. A rattle may be from sticking rotor vanes or it's possible
>>>that some other trash is in it (in which case you should replace or
>>>rebuild the steering gear). Also, rebuilt pumps are pretty easy to >>>find
>>>and are likely to be in stock at better parts places. There are two
>>>different reservoirs that were used while AMC was around but the pumps
>>>are identical otherwise. The only real issue you need to watch out for >>>is
>>>that the pulley attachment method is the same. The early style uses a
>>>bolt on pulley and the later style uses a press on pulley (you need a
>>>special tool to remove and install these).
>>>
>>>Matt
>>>
>>>At 05:50 PM 4/25/2005 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>Hey Guys, I have a PS pump that has a rattle in it at one speed (30 >>>>mph
>>>>in high gear) and it is annoying, but I am concerned that it will >>>>fail
>>>>just at the most inopportune minute. Has anyone got replacement >>>>parts
>>>>kits for these pumps. I guess there is more than one brand of pump.
>>>>Where do I look to find out the manufacturer and model on the pump?
>>>>
>>>>Jay
>>>
>>>mhaas@xxxxxxx
>>>Cincinnati, OH
>>>http://www.mattsoldcars.com
>>>1967 Rambler American wagon
>>>1968 Rambler American sedan
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>>>According to a February survey of Internet holdouts released by
>>>UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
>>>not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>
> mhaas@xxxxxxx
> Cincinnati, OH
> http://www.mattsoldcars.com
> 1967 Rambler American wagon
> 1968 Rambler American sedan
> ===============================================================
> According to a February survey of Internet holdouts released by
> UCLA's Center for Communication Policy, people cite
> not having a computer as the No. 1 reason they won't go online.
>
>
>
>
>
>







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