You're right, mention (and forgiveness) of the Commie *itch is way off topic. Complicity to murder and aid and comfort to the enemy during a time of conflict is not forgiven just because of a half hearted apology. Fame has nothing to do with it (if she hadn't been famous no one would've even cared or taken her picture). Read some of the accounts from the POW's to see if she should be forgiven...not until she truly says she's sorry (not "I made a judgement mistake" or words to that effect) should it even be considered. What efforts has she made to truly help the vets she so wrongfully harmed other than some carefully couched statements to not make her look wrong? Marty Bricker CAPT, USN (Ret) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com