Re: FW: Jeep 4.0 in an American?

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I have a T-4 laying on the Garage floor I can measure. I believe they are the same length across the board for normal Slip yoke type car trans, Camaro, Mustang, S-10 T-5s. As a lot of truch guys talk about installing the S-10 tailhousings on the different trans to move the shifter to the far forward position. AMC and Chevette is mid position, Then Ford close to rear, last Camaro is almost completely rearward. Astro Van uses and strange relocated shifter mechanism. I've never seen one assembled just on breakdown sheets, looks strange. 
 I believe the Ford based trans is the way to go, then add the S-10 housing if needed to get the shifter forward. The camaro case and output are a waste. The bell pattern is different and the mount flange is at something like a 10* angle. Making it difficult to use. AMC T-5 is hard to find. It seems that the shifter location of an AMC T-5 fits perfiect in the Ford Tiger chassis too!. I'd use the Ford trans if starting from scratch, but I don't want to redo  the speedo and hole in the floor!
Mark Price
mpriceAtwestco.net
Morgantown, WV
69 AMC rambler, 4.0L, EFI, 5 speed 
65 Ambassador Conv, 327 AUTO, Basketcase
01 S-10 CREWCRAP 4X4



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From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)
Reply-To: mail-From-mprice-westco.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date:  Wed, 20 Apr 2005 15:20:25 -0400 (EDT)

>" From: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>" I will probably die with this project in my head, but I'm going to
>" proceed as time allows.
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>oh boy, i know how that goes!  btdt, t-shirt doesn't fit...
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>"    My point is I would build the two wheel drive Jeep with the T-5 or
>" similar car geared trans. Just because it is more "street" friendly,
>" depending on the gear set. It is also light weight, 75 lbs. The AX15
>" is IMHO too notchy in shift action to be "fun" on the street. 
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>that's a point.  makes me wonder how the r154 in turbo supras is.
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>"   Of course the T-5 into the XJ body is not a bolt in. which I'm sure
>" is what you are after.
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>1. some '84-6 xjs came with [wide ratio] t5s instead of ax5s.  but
>   that's not what i'm looking for...  [dunno if it's the same as t5s
>   in eagles or cjs either]
>2. advance has a [wide ratio] world class t5 for 4.0s with peugeots -
>   for ~$1800, incl bell.  but i'm not looking for that either...
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>if the eagle hydro slave was cheaper and more available it would
>simplify this swap.  it bolts to the amc sr4/t4/t5 and multipattern
>[afaik] bells.  then add a cps relocation kit or hack the bell to
>mount it...
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>anyone happen to know the length overall of an anc t5, bell face to
>output yoke?  i'm wondering if it would happen to be the same as ford
>t5s, 24" +/-.
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>Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
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>adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx                       and think what none thought
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