Re: non AMC motors etc

[farna@xxxxxxx]

Richard, you have to remember that AMO was originally formed to PRESERVE AMC cars, so modifications other than stock wouldn't be "preserving". That being said, they have had a "non-stock" or "customized" class for some time. This class still didn't allow non-AMC engines. The new class will. It's an evolution. When AMO was formed there were still plenty of AMC cars and parts around. Now they are getting harder to find, and it's starting to make more sense to go with something else for power for drivers and racers. Save the stock parts for presevers! I think it's getting time to have such a class. I don't think a "non-AMC power" class will dilute all AMC cars, on the contrary, it should emphasize the dedication it takes to keep a car that way.
AMO as a whole isn't that narrow minded. There are some in every hobby! I'm featuring a 37 Nash street rod in the next AIM. It's powered by an AMC 360 and very nicely done. All in the family. But a Nash retorer made snide remarks about the car anyway. Later AMC/Rambler people like the car more since it is at least AMC powered. To each his own, everyone has an opinion! This particular car is a bit on the rare side, but when it was bought by the owner someone had already started hot rodding it. Going back to stock would have been prohibitively expensive, especially finding the hard to find parts that were missing! 

I don't object to your plans either. ;>

I hate to say it, as I know this comment will raise a few hackles, but I don't see the Donohue as anything special. Technically it was a Javelin SST with a duck-tail spoiler and sticker on it, period. You could get any available option, though it did come with a certain set of options (like 360 or 401 V-8, no 304s or sixes!). But the only thing special was the sticker and spoiler -- which you could buy a few months after they came out from any AMC dealer. I believe this is where the 304 column shift auto "factory" Donohue and other deviations (from factory advertised equipment, except where obviously added by owner) came from. If I were an unscrupulous dealer and there were no more "real" Donohues available, or I had to many Javelins on the lot, why not buy a sticker and spoiler to sell the car, or even make a few more bucks off of it? No onw would know! The serial number or final assembly range doesn't fly either, regular production Javelins were mixed in with the Donohues !
 as were every other car AMC made (two Kenosha lines, five AMC models running down them...). So you could have a dealer spoofed car within the right final assembly range easily. If it doens't have the specified minimum equipment it's not likely a true factory car, but even if it does and is in the assembly range there is no way to verify if it is a true factory car unless one has the original build sheet stating the spoiler was put on atthe factory. There will always be some controversy over the Donohue though -- unlike the other specials (like the T/A Javelin) which usually have some equipment/paint/etc. unique to them. 


On April 18, 2005 a1977amx@xxxxxxx wrote:

> I have already gotten leads on several wreced 2 wheel drive 5.7 Hemi trucks not far from me. The cost of the complete wrecked vehicle is less then what I would spend on the Edlebrock parts. Acording to what I've been reading, even the Edlebrock fuel injection conversion would be too radical for the AMO crowd because technically the AMC factory did not offer it as an option. These same narrow minded people that think like this must really hate all the resto mods currently out there. I believe certian cars that are rare or have some type of history should not be overly modified, but my car was a junkyard find with no drive train at all and certianlly not rare. It doesn't even have a current title at this time, but I am working on it. I do not participate in judged shows anymore since I used to show my slightly modified Donohue. It was also a sure to be crushed junkyard find that is currently owned by an AMO member in Michigan. This car was also sans drivetrain when I got it,!
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>  ut it had a 401/727 in it when I sold it. Certianlly not correct, but at least it was saved to fight another day. I am not building this Hemi powered 72 Javelin to compete with factory correct, AMC powered cars as I have no desire to ever show it at a judged show. I have an AMC powered 77 Prostreet AMX that I can not drive very far to shows because it does not get very good miliage and is highly modified.I want a car that I can actually use this time. While I personally would never use a Chevy or Ford motor in an AMC, I have seen a really nice Rambler with a complete Chevy Drivetrain and interior that was pretty nice. I will never build a concorse correct car as the financial output would far exceed the payback in the end. I do not build cars for profit, but the scarcity of stock usable parts is pretty hard to ignore. I have been looking on Ebay for the few stock parts I do need, and some sellers think used junk is gold plated. I do plan to sell off the stock parts I will!
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>  ot be using so someone else can use them on their project.At the club
> meeting at my house last night, not one person objected to my plans after seeing what I had to work with.
> Richard Payne
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