Re: Non-AMC powered cars in AMO

[Roguev8@xxxxxxx]

On April 16, 2005 Tom Bunsey wrote:

> On April 15, 2005 JOE B FULTON wrote:
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> > Well, you could always say the factory started the
> > trend.  They used the Iron Duke in the late-seventies
> > and early eighties.  What class would a Spirit with
> > the Duke be in today?
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> > Joe Fulton
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> > Salinas, CA
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> Joe:
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> A Spirit with the "Iron Duke" is in the STOCK CLASS (It came from the factory that way---That's what "STOCK" means!
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> ANY AMO "Stock Class" is going to accept engine, body, etc. that was available from the AMC Factory.
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> SO, a 2.0 "Audi" engine in a Gremlin, Spirit, Concord, Postal Jeep is "STOCK" (AMC had the North American rights to that engine).
> So is an 2.5 "Iron Duke" in a Spirit, Concord, Eagle, Jeep, Postal Jeep
> And a 2.8 Chevy V6 in a Jeep Comanche or Cherokee.
> Or the Renault 2.1 diesel as found in some Comanche & Cherokee models.
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> It might even be possible to make a case for the Buick V6 and 350 V8 as found in 1970 & 1971 Jeeps! While AMC purchased Jeep in 1970, AMC engines didn't find their way into the Jeep bodies until the 1972 model year. The 1971 (AMC) Hurst Jeepster was powered by the Buick V6! AMO recognizes (and accepts) Jeep from 1970.
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> I tend to think that any of the above engines (since they came from the "factory" in an AMC chassis) would be acceptable in any AMO Non-Stock class. Again, the engines were available from AMC in AMC vehicles.
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> Some day in the future I hope to put an "Audi" 2.0 4-cylinder into a 1964-65 Rambler American.
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> Would it be in "Stock" Class?  Not according to year of availability, but it IS AMC power (says so right on the rocker cover).
> Would it be acceptable in an AMO "Non-Stock" Class. YES!
> After all, while the car has been "modified", the car was "modified" using AMC parts.
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> For the past 20+ years I have wanted to put a HUDSON flathead 6-cylinder into a 1965 Rambler American. I have already found two donor engines. Both engines can be verified as being produced in 1955 & 1956, so they were built by AMC.
> Would this be acceptable as "Stock"? Well.... It's certainly stock AMC....
> Would it acceptable as "Non-Stock"?  It SHOULD be. Engine built by AMC, installed originally on an AMC assembly line at the Kenosha plant. Why wouldn't it be?
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> I personally am fearful that AMO is opening a real "can of worms" by permitting a "MODIFIED" Class ("MODIFIED" meaning non-AMC power). At the AMO Board meeting three years ago, I did vote FOR a provisional "Modified" class, which would run three years for evaulation. I'm not sure that I would vote for a PERMANENT
> "Modified" class. The National Meet this year will be the THIRD YEAR. I presume that the issue will be on the agenda this year, which will be kind of tricky to vote on, as the actual car show won't occur until after the Board Meeting.
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> Tom Bunsey
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> I have always been against non-AMC powered cars allowed to be shown at AMC meets. I think that one of the main reasons we all bought AMC's is their great engines. I sure wouldn't want to replace the engines in my 343 American or my '57 Rebel with anything other than AMC power. For those of you who are non-believers, let me put it another way. If you had a Corvette, do you think the Corvette people would allow a non Chevrolet powered Corvette to be shown at one of their events? What if you had a Ford. Do you think the related club would allow anything but a Ford powered car in their event? I don't think so. 

Finally, as automobile buffs, we are historians who should want to preserve the marque as originally built, or if one would decide to modify the vehicle, I would think you would want to upgrade the powerplant with a more modern version of that company's engine, and "keep it in the family," so to speak. But think about what other clubs would allow at their events.
Just my .02.
Larry Blatt, Phila, PA, '67 Rogue 343, '57 Rebel. 
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