A: I don't think it's quite that much, but I can carry the 2.5L engine sans external extras, but can barely carry a complete 4.0L block (I tip the scales at nearly 300lbs myself and I'm 6' tall but they grew us strong back on the farm 45 years ago) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Telling the diff between AMC 2.5 and Iron Duke " From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> " " A: I have wrestled several of these around (4.0L and 2.5L) and there is a " noticeable difference in weight. I'm pretty sure it's lighter than the 196 I " had as a spare for the '61 Rambler I sold. afaik the 4.0 weighs about the same as most other 199/232/258, which is also in the ballpark for the 196 - so the 2.5 has to be 100-150 lbs lighter, give or take. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought