Re: 1971 AMC Hornet SST 2 door, assistance please
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Re: 1971 AMC Hornet SST 2 door, assistance please



I forgot about that Andrew! But there is a slight problem. The M35/37 air cooled trans was only used behind 199 and smaller sixes in big cars, 232 in the light weight postal Jeeps and early Hornet/Gremlin. They weren't used behind the V-8 at all. The air cooled bell is very different from the radiator cooled models. I'm not sure about depth of the bell either, though I suspect M4x trannys all used the same bell whether behind a six or 290/304. I think the M37 was a heavier air cooled model, but it might be radiator cooled (M35 modified for radiator cooling?). 

There may be bosses that can be drilled out for converting the M35 to radiator cooling. I know there are external pressure test points. I'd thought about using one of those then drilling a hole in the edge of the case just above the pan lip for a return. I never did as I was afraid it would reduce pressure to much. As long as no towing or really heavy loads are pulled the air cooled trans works fine. One more thing, the lower bell cover MUST be in place! If it's removed air flow is interrupted and the trans WILL overheat. I found out the hard way! You'd think that with the cover removed airflow would increase, but the design of the fan on the torque converter needs to be enclosed. 

(saying this mainly for the benefit ofothers Andrew, I know you're aware of this!)

On March 31, 2005 andrew hay wrote:

> haven't done that -recently-...
> 
> " The bell on the BW trannys is a separate piece so the trans
> " could be used on many different makes. AMG could easily have made
> " another bell for the newer engines. I do believe you are correct
> " though, that the early bolt pattern was used. It would have been
> " cheaper and easier to change the block casting than to tool up for a
> " new bell. I've seen at least one mid 70s postal Jeep with a small bell
> " pattern and M35.
> "
> "
> " On March 30, 2005 andrew hay wrote:
> "
> " > one of the tricks here is finding out how late am general kept making
> " > early-style blocks.  they were using m35s and m12s as late as the
> " > mid-'70s, and that suggests early blocks.
> " > ________________________________________________________________________
> 
> amg wouldn't even have had to make a new early-trans/late-six
> converter housing - aluminum warners were used with 290s and 304s and
> they could use the v8 flexplate without balance weights, so the parts
> are all 'off the shelf'.  and of course the same for the m12.
> 
> amg did make jeeps with torqueflites, but i think they gave sixes up
> by the end of the '70s.  so there's only a few years where they
> could've had a small bell tf904.
> 
> btw it looks like postaljeep.com is off the air.  that was an
> excellent reference for production series and info.
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Andrew Hay                                  the genius nature
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> 
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> 
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> 
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