{FORGED?} Re: Coupe or Sedan? MAHONEY! (was PARTING OUT 74 HORNET...)

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On March 23, 2005 Jimmy Stevens wrote:

> On March 23, 2005 Jim B wrote:
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> > A: I've had several 4 dr hard tops. '66 Plymouth (Fury IIRC) with suicide
> > rear doors, '68 T-bird, '66 Pontiac Grande Parisienne and Strato Chief, '66
> > Impala, '58/9 Impala
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> > From: "John W Rosa" <JohnRosa@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: Coupe or Sedan? MAHONEY! (was PARTING OUT 74 HORNET...)
> > Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:05:49 -0500
> > Message-ID: <002f01c52e16$bbb4e580$4a6b1540@rigor1>
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> > Simple- a hardtop-convertible!
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> > I'm sorry I even brought the subject up,  etc. ...
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> > Me thinks this is a question for one John Mahoney.
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> > Batter up!
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> > John
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>    The whole thing is a question of age ... You have to be chronologically challanged enough to remember a time when these terms actually meant something!
>     Think about a Model A Ford Roadster (I know that's non-AMC, but we can all picture one!) ... now add roll up windows and you have a convertible!
>    Then add a metal top and you have a coupe.
>    Now think of a touring car (Phaeton), add a metal top and you have a sedan.
>    So a coupe has a shorter passenger compartment than a sedan ... get it so far?
>    Let's move up to the late 1940's ... someone, probably Harley Earl, noticed that convertibles were prettier than sedans and decided that that was because the lack of a "B-pillar" meant that the flowing horizontal lines of the car were not broken up by a vertical line in the middle. That's when the Hardtop Convertible (later shortened to just Hardtop) was born! It was literally a convertible body with a fixed metal top added, and was deferentiated from a coupe by it's lack of a "B-pillar".
>    Since then many more terms have come along to confuse the issue ... and the original meanings have been corrupted for various reasons (was the original Crown Victoria REALLY a Hardtop? How about the mid 70's Impalas?)
>    But if we keep in mind where the names came from, we can still understand each other ... sort of ... on a good day ... with a little luck.
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A model A with roll up windows was a Cabroilet. Ford made both roadsters and Cabriolets through the 36 model year. A Cabroilet was basically a coupe cowl and doors on a roadster body. 37 and after were converts.
"Doc"









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