John; I usually go on Sunday, the buyers day. I went to the first meet after they opened PIR again and the "good ol days" came back. Yeah, it is huge. Last year I skipped as I got to the gate at 5AM and the line started at I-5!!! I was picturing my radiator and patience boiling over. Anyways, I always wear a sign around my neck advertising AMC as very few AMCers are out there. If available, I park at the blue gate entrance. See ya there....Russ __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/