I had the same experience with my 1964 Tempest in the rear, first set was weaker then the old ones and the ass sat wayyy too low, next set was moderately better but still not even factory ride height. I returned both sets and finally found a set of "cargo coils" used on ebay. They were for a station wagon and I was able to grind them down in increments (a saw didn't even begin to cut them) until it sat exactly as I wanted it. See if they offer Station wagon springs that will work. Mine were only pigtailed at the bottom so that's why I could trim until happy. Don't know if Ambo springs are shaped that way. ~John -----Original Message----- From: Jim Blair [mailto:carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 2:35 PM To: amc Subject: Re: Was: Ramblings Now: Coil Springs It's been a long time, but I recall putting some Ford 3/4 ton front coils in the back of an AMC (and a Buick) to get them back to normal ride height plus a little (because I ALWAYS had my toolbox back there) From: "Todd Jesme" <jesme@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Was: Ramblings Now: Coil Springs Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 00:34:15 -0600 Message-ID: <NKEJKAHLGJLPICPKNNKMGENJDAAA.jesme@xxxxxxxxxxx> Good grief...all of this list-nonesense has got Bart speaking in foreign tongues. Speak English man. Boy this is starting to feel like the old (and I do mean OLD) list again. Hey Ritzinger, you lurking? Oh yeah...After getting (not one, but) *2* new sets of coil springs from Coil Spring Specialtiees for the rear of my 73 Ambassador Wagon, it still sits at the same height as the stock 30+ year old springs and feels as soft. I ordered 2" of lift and 20% stiffer than stock. Sent them a stock spring after the first bad set, they sent it back to me with a new set. Same exact diameter coil and same height (installed) as the first set...*%#&^)#!@! Now, they are *trying* to "make it right" for me by making me a 3rd set, and have already sent me a call-tag to return the first set, so I will keep the list posted as to how that goes. As for right now, 6-months of back and forth BS with them, very poor communication, and poor quality product would lead me to advise against using them in the future. As always, Todd Jesme MN Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com AMC list subscription options link http://www.amxfiles.com/amc-list/options.cfm