Re: ADMIN: List changes coming

[farna@xxxxxxx]

You know, Jim answered everything so I won't elaborate. The list is the list. It's separate from everything else I do. It will not become anything more than a place for AMC people to talk. I have voiced my opinions in the past, and will continue to do so. Why Jock has this fear that I would prevent anyone from voicing their opinions or promoting one club or another is beyond me. If my opinion carries weight with anyone it's their choice to listen. I've never put down any of the clubs, why would I do so now? Even if I do run for an AMO position and get it, it won't change the fact that AMO may not be the right place for all AMC owners. Quite simply I won't do anything on the list that I haven't always done. The list will continue to run as it has been, except there will be consequences for unacceptable actions, and more than one person (not just myself) to deal out those consequences. There won't be censorship or moderation unless it's needed. What can be more fair? 



On March 1, 2005 Jim B wrote:

> A: Just a thought but shouldn't Jock's line of reasoning mean that GW
> shouldn't be president, because he's a member of the Republican party and
> not a Democrat as well? (NOT starting anything. Just a point to ponder)
> 
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> From:           <List@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject:        Lumpy Gravy
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> To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 13:08:48 -0600
> Subject: Re: ADMIN: List changes coming
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> *From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx>
> >From: Brien M. Tourville<HH7X@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> =
> 
> 
> *Colin,
>   I am not going to argue for Randy to stay on the list but I think he
> should be given one more chance and in that chance let him know
> to keep
> his posts civil and about AMC's, not some of the other stuff he has
> posted.
> 
> >  That is Colins call - and as most know - he has posted his
> response  - read it ?
> 
> 
> 
>  * And as far as letting Frank Swygert taking over the list, I am
> definitely against this. Why?
> 
> > No one is T'aking over the List' - and -
> I have no problem with Frank Swygert having
> oversight of this list - None whatsoever:
> 
>     He is a car & article builder and interested party
>     in projects on this List - which you are mostly not.
> 
>     He is friendly - which you are mostly not either.
> 
>     He does publish out of pocket - Articles on AMC and
>     builder projects - frequently contributes information
>     to this List - which you do not, yet you continue to
>     attack his efforts at every chance you get.
> 
> 
> 
> * First because he is the publisher of AIM
> (American Independent Magazine) and as such can in no way,
> shape or form be truly independent in running this list, which
> should be most important.
> 
> >  Well, nice you could remember the Name of his Publication
> finally. You repeatedly wrote :>" what ever you call it" etc.
> in your last posts this past week.  I was sincerely concerned
> with your Senility  ~!
> 
> As to being truly Independent in running this list - I'm quite
> certain Frank would show the light impartial touch as needed.
> 
> Your statement inferrs that Background and Capacity are
> Liabilities - which in Franks case, is simply not true.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *He also has stated he would like to become the president of two
> AMC (AMO -AMCRC) clubs or at least, an officer in them, and
> again, like I said he couldnot remain independent in running the
> list.
> 
> > Well! Such a statement might provide impetus to others
> to think about running and joining other AMC involvements.
> Its good that Talented People remain as actively involved
> as time allows -  it serves the greater need.
> However it goes - I wish him all the  Best,
> and am certain a lot of positive will come
> from his Stewardship.
> 
> 
> 
> *It would be just too easy for him to run people off the list that
> might seem to him to be detrimental to his magazine, AMO or
> AMCRC.
> 
> > I've never seen anything in Franks Posts nor his writings to
> justify your singularly personal attacks , speaking frankly Jock.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  * As the long time president and editor of an international AMC
> car club, I myself should not be the one in charge of an AMC
> orientated list
> 
> > ...y'awn', I agree, but not for those reasons , that It would be
> Best for the List, if you remain a Member in Good Standing and let
> it go at that.
> 
> Is the Editing a Car Club anything like Chiefing Parking Lot
> Attendance?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> *or should I be one of those chosen to be on the board of list
> supervisors go can kick people off the list. And neither should
> Frank Swygert. I truly believe that who ever runs the list and is on
> the board should be truly independent and unbiased.
> 
> 
> > I truly believe that regardless of whomever
> does monitor this list -
> you have disqualified yourself Jock,... with Distinction.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> May our AMC-List go forward with the Appropriate Interest
> and Appropriate Monitor,
> leaving aside our Regional Maul Segment.
> 
> 
> 
>              Brien.
>          NEW YORK
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