Yes, it should have read 300,000, not "300,00" real Ramblers. Readers realize the reality of keyboard ricocheting. Really. Readers also realize Mazda rotaries never ran in any real AMC. But one could have made a real "run-for-something" AMC to see. And, as off-lister O'Connor wrote to me suggesting, a new one http://www.mazda.com/mnl/200306/renesis.html could turn a Pacer into a real "run-for-attention" AMC scene! Build an AMC car like that and see it in -all- the magazines. The rice-rocket boys would eat it up, the indie-huggers would be endeared and the "we're cool" Big-Three (Four? Keep counting?) magazine scribes would be forced to put tongues in [different?] cheeks writing an AMC Pacer story. A real revenge of the real Rambler nerds. Really. >> Must be a slow AMC week. Can anyone tell me what a real AMX is? Matt (runs and hides with a devilish grin) << If you read words from Tuesday, it was a real Wisconsin machine. If you read tea leaves for tomorrow, it is a real money machine. If you read much about AMC written, it was the only AMC machine. One of those statements is accurate. Can Matt tell us which is? >> are we to take it from your post that you WANT continued FRAUD to go on in the AMC hobby???? Are we to take it that a person in your position would WANT fraud over LEGITIMATE business???? Is the ONLY feeling you have of FRAUD is HUSH IT UP???? Don't deal with it???? << My "position" is non-existent, I left the only AMC club I ever "joined" [three months after mailing a check, response to my tracer note was "it got lost under some papers"] after one hot-rhetoric newsletter arrived ["What is THIS?" I remember wondering] and that [in] famous Ambassador parade phaeton (a Teague tale if there ever was one --- a Stevens saga from AMC history as well*) doesn't transport me to greet AMC audiences. I just bought some new (and old) AMC cars over the years and learned a few things about AMC (and other) car history. Fraud is bad, friendship is good, screaming doesn't do much for me and my Ambassador is no AMC Popemobile. (See star shine "*" below.) If recent screams of "FRAUD" or "LIAR" or "GOTCHA" (fer yer usage; glad our word police were on Ork rather than in Ohio yesterday, 'cuz this Cat pulled a "Whom" from his Hat, put it in place of a "Who" and silence en-Seuss-ed) are all that it takes to make us click wixList3 "Next" faster, they succeed. If intended to expose fraud, refute lies and improve AMC scholarship, they need retooling. I have no idea what hobby-status, profit-making, tax-reporting or one's sense of [il] "legitimacy" have to do with design, manufacture and sale of replacement or improvement parts for AMC vehicles. I thought that a "Buyer Beware" light came with the adulthood package. Bob Turnquist is hobbyist, Scroll way down to Class 26B http://aaca.org/meetresults/2004GrandNational.pdf AMC SIDEBAR: Then scroll way, way, WAY down to 36E [to the end] to see the only [save Mets] AMC cars attending Buffalo's 2004 Grand "everyone wins!" National. The "best and brightest" (and nearly the "most photographed") stars from the entire AMC planet (neither slam nor endorsement), off [literally] in an AMC corner, vying for attention with zillions of other-make machines. I could write something serious about their presentation and condition. It wouldn't be something the (and -this-) AMC world would care to read. (Hudson Italia was delightful. Can anyone tell us if it's a real AMC?) BACK TO TOPIC: a "cars-to-keep" hobbyist, http://www.collectionatcarriagehouse.com/Amelia04_Concours02/index.html (don't count how many were his) historian and cars/services seller. http://www.hiberniaautorestorers.com/packard_story.html If he did all that with AMC [!], would screams be heard?