Randy, I like you, you state things the way you feel. I know we have gone 'round & 'round' on things before but when you state you can't advertise in any auto related magazine, I believe you. But when it comes to the clubs you have to remember that the AMC clubs are non-profit (except maybe AMCRC because I don't see in their newsletters where they state they are non-profit) and as such are run by volunteers, not magazines that have pockets full of money and can afford to check things out closer and have the staff's to do so. A far as I am concerned, anyone that can help out the AMC hobby can advertise in NAMDRA's newsletter if they follow NAMDRA's guidelines and we don't get written statements from customers that the advertisers are screwing the, Right now we are investigating a long time advertiser because of some sour comments I have seen on the AMC Forum. On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:12:09 -0600 Guynn <amx69@xxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Douglas, > Vendors!!!!!!!! > > A lot of newcomers don't know what is real and what is fake in the > AMC > hobby. And in fact, because many oldsters in the hobby have > ''lurked'' > as you have for 10 years, many are just not aware of the same type > ''behind the scenes'' crap that is played out in the unseen world of > AMC > vendors. There is a LOT of underhanded crap that has been pulled > over > the years, and much of it is still going on. There are also ''sham'' > > vendors that simply decide to buy parts and jack up the price and > make > spare money. Some are at least honest enogh not to adopt a business > > name, but the hobby is full of long time ILLEGITIMATE businesses. So > far > no one at a National Club level has decided their club will support > > ETHICS in business and require that Anyone advertising as a > biusiness > prove they really are. I can't advertose anywhere in an automotive > related magazine and not provide proof of a business. > > What all of this Underhanded CLUB and VENDOR business stacks up to > for > the AMC hobby is Problems. Problems trying to GROW the hobby. > > As you mentioned Douglas, Many old timers have gone by the wayside. > > Dropped out, or passed away. And many also will not ''donate'' their > > time or wisdom in this modern age of computers because theyt see the > > constant bashing by ''those that DON'T KNOW'' tpward those that DO > KNOW, > and try to share.However much of this type crap is solely due to a > comunications misunderstanding because a person cannot write in > readable > words his voice inflection, or his body language. This leads to mis > > understanding of intent and a big flame war starts. Humans being > what we > are usually fight to the death. > > At any rate Douglas, Thanks for the comments. > > Regards, > Randy Gyunn Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326 http://www.namdra.org JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!!! '05 AMC NATIONALS - SEP. 15-17, 2005 CORDOVA DRAGWAY PARK AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766