A: Looking back on the time and money I wasted on my '66 Fairlanes (1 was stolen and the other was too far gone for me to fix the body easily, but I dumped a chunk of money into it) I wish I had just bought my neighbor's '79 Concord and stuffed a 304 into it with the 4 speed from the Granada I had in my Fairlane (4th gear was overdrive) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Decent clutch choice for 258? " From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> " " I need to buy a clutch (pressure plate, friction disk, throwout " bearing) for my Hornet. Reasonably hot 258, and a T150 trans. I'm " not racing and I don't want killer clutch pedal. " " Any recommendations for a decent quality, reasonable priced clutch " vendor? why not a stock hd 304/t150 clutch? you might want to check it over when you pick it up; iirc the replacement pp will be 10.5" but the disk will be only 10", as was the original pp iirc. that being the case, you might want to get a 10.5" ford disc, say for a 302 - the t150 is a 3sp ford toploader tranny and has a ford-common 1 1/16" x 10 spline input. you might also want to be on the lookout for a toploader 4sp, esp. if you already have a floor shifter. you'll need a new shifter, but the common short-mainshaft versions will slip right into the 3sp's place. same length, splines, bolt pattern, etc. -maybe- the rear mount is different. wide ratios - most common - start with 2.78:1 first. -- for those of us who want a hd clutch for our pre-'72 199/232/258, perfection has the only hd pp which is still actually 10" - their c1647 for b&b style, c1897 for diaphragm style, rcf448 15/16" x 10 spline disk. a 10.5" b&b will bolt up to the flywheel, but will -not- clear the bellhousing. ask me how i know... pedal travel is longer than the 9 1/8", and freeplay is tricky until the clutch wears in a bit. effort is about the same. iirc the 196 flywheel is not drilled for the 10"/10.5" pp pattern. my '66 199 and afaik all 199/232/258 were. diaphragm types are lower in profile than b&b types; perhaps a 10.5" dia -would- clear the bell, but iirc don't they tend to have even longer pedal travels? ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought Jim Blair, Seattle, WA '84 J10 Black Jack (getting lifted and stroked!), '73 J4000 304/TH400/QT tow truck http://www.virtualjeep.com AMC list subscription options link http://www.amxfiles.com/amc-list/options.cfm