" From: "Jim Blair" <carnuck@xxxxxxxxxxx> " " A: Now I have a question. What's the overall length of the 196 (fan " included)? Maybe the 4.0L with an electric push fan would fit? i don't have numbers but i've looked at both quite a bit. in a '64 - no problem. '63 - still major surgery. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought