Re: Scat Rods

Randy,
  It comes across a little harsh.
I'm sure there was lot of time and effort into making these rods.
Your points are true and valid. Seems to me SCAT should have said, why don't we just do these all at the Chevy spec and people can redo them as needed. 
  You cap it off by asking him when the "REAL" rods will be done.
Like all this effort only allowed them to build "fake" rods!
Besides you just told him to not to promise when things would be done.

This is not intended to be a Flame, just my point of view.

Mark Price

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Date:  Fri, 21 Jan 2005 11:26:16 -0500 (EST)

>This sort of screw up is very common in the Aftermarket business. Al;l 
>these things happen usually because of poor comunications along the way. 
>I personally have been in deals such as this too. It happens.
>
>This is 100% precisely why I will NEVER, EVER, presell a thing on a 
>''new product'' level.I would have though the ''TUCKER'' would have 
>cured pre-sales, but I guess not. At one time I would have presold new 
>parts, but not after I see what usually happens.What I have seen is that 
>deals go sour, and the ''hype'' preceding the parts arrival, does 
>nothing except make folks look bad. Looks like no one knows what they 
>are doing. Looks can be decieving. I am involved with a total of 3 such 
>new parts deals right now that are ''screwed up'' .On first blush 
>everything looks great. Then someplace along the way, someone does not 
>do as they have said they will do. So far, all the cases I have ever 
>seen the problems come from the Manufacturer. The Manufacturer seems to 
>be the culpret in 99% of the problems. They make deals they do not keep. 
>They do not pay attention to details. This is also why I don't like 
>talking up a new product, or when it will be available. Everytime 
>without fail it leads to disappointments.
>
>My personal feelings on the bushing of the rods to begin with is that it 
>was totally uncalled for. Every single rod a person ever gets will need 
>the piston pin fitted to it, Press fit, or floating, makes no 
>difference.So why even worry with offering a ''limited product'' with 
>the option. If a person wants, needs bushed rods, he can certainly get 
>it done. In fact, even though the rods are bushed, Guess What?? You 
>still have to pin fit them no matter.  My next personal opinion on the 
>rods was, Why a stock .930 pin?? This is not very smart for ''everyone'' 
>again on a limited production piece. To me it makes a lot more sense to 
>offer the rods for a .927 Chevy pin size. This way the racer has a lot 
>more super lightweight pins available. The Street guy that wants to use 
>stock .930 pin can still do so, as like I said before, the rod still has 
>to be pin fitted for propper fit. Every .930 pin is not the exact same 
>size. Had these rods been thought out a little better then this .930 pin 
>deal, nor the ''all bushed'' deal would hasve come up. Just imagine the 
>ease the Manufacvturer would have to just program in the same identicle 
>pin size he already uses for the majority of rods it makes, One LESS 
>thing to screw up on. Sometimes you have to think, ''How can I make this 
>Easier for the manufacturer and make my new product more versitile?" 
>Also, why make the rods 5.885 when the stock AMC length is 5.875, why 
>did we need another .010 longer than stock rod??
>
>As to how much power or RPM they will take, it all depends on how the 
>rods are treated. You can break good parts by stupidly trying to over 
>rev an engine . When you pass the RPM it makes power at, the engine 
>becomes unloaded and the strain on rods goes up geometricly. Thew forces 
>cube out.The higher the RPM past the power point, the more the engine 
>unloads. If you could run it high enough, it would unload to the point 
>of being just like having the car in Neutral with your foot buried in 
>the throttle. If you think anyone builds a rod that will turn 8,000 RPM 
>in an unloaded condition and live, you need to do a lot more research 
>that you have done. Folks also need to learn that the RPM ranges given 
>by Cam and Intake manufacturers are a General range when installed on 
>engines from 290 up to 401 inches. The bigger the engine, the sooner the 
>Cams & Intakes stop building power. The smaller the engine, the higher 
>RPM the parts stop working.Just because a cam says it makes power to 
>7000 does not mean it does on your engine with your combination of 
>parts. And pushing the wrong combo to the 7000 RPM level damages parts. 
>Sometimes sooner, sometimes later, but everytime you over rev the 
>engine, another portion of life has been taken from the part.
>
> So, When are the real 390,/401 Scat rods going to make the scene?? Or 
>has this screw up prevented forward progress on those?? Is that project 
>dead??
>
>Regards,
>
>Randy Guynn
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