Take off the carb, that way you can tighten the intake properly. Follow the TSM for intake proceedure and even the books like chilton say this. I replaced the intake on my 232 and with the carb off you can reach the bolts easily. The crows foot will slip and round off the corners......Russ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail