You are so correct, Barney was Cool, but his were conventional in my way of thinking because although heavily "worked-on", the Navarro heads were NOT SOHC or DOHC, and were they even "crossflow?" I'm just incredulous, but it looks like its true, that AMC "mis-used" its engine people, imho, because they didn't apparantly think beyond 2nd generation V-8s. Weren't these guys putting-in 40 hours like the rest of the industry? Olds had single and twin-cammer Experimentals, in alloy or not on their V-8s, then they ran with what was learned there and came up with the Quad-four. They kept appealing to the older driver, and GM axed them because GM thought they didn't need two "Buick" nameplates. What happened to AMC,--looks like what happened to the Brit. motorcycle industry, earlier. They didn't innovate, leaving it to Japan/others to do so. Innovation (and artificially low prices) was Japan's ticket to market penetration, then market dominence. It's as if someone was drugging the water in the coolers of these corporations. The design/engineering people went slowly to sleep,--not noticing their lunch was being eaten by talented foreigners. Part of this, I lay at the feet of organized labor, because their union bosses were lying to workers, telling them the worker could "demand the World" in wages & benefits, and that they had no responsibility to make SURE the parent corporation was healthy and making money(and, paying dividends on their stock). When you ask too much, the bosses/jobs "go away," maybe never to return. I know the AMC executives HAD to be "on drugs" of some sort, because they had all those warranty claims due to spun-bearings which they could have prevented with no more than $2.00 (--back then)-worth of parts. GM was drinking the same water, because they allowed the bean-counters to kill the passenger diesil at Olds and elsewhere, because truck-type water separators weren't put on, which would have prevented ALL the GREIF everyone experienced. You have a "problem"--it's KILLING your business, you FIX-IT, --NOW, --but AMC didn't, --GM didn't,--the Brits didn't, in the examples I raised, and I wonder WHY?! I'm guessing, but this answer would do it. The Japs got control of the water and Floridated it, just like the Nazis & Japs did in their concentration camps, thereby putting their charges asleep/drugged. Beyond that, after a few warranty hassles with a manufacturer, you "learn" to buy elsewhere,--a different BRAND of product. If the new product you're now buying was the "author" of greif with your old vendor, who would know,--who'd make the connection, and yet it was Economic, Asymetrical, WAR, waged against US industry, all the same. Why is this important Now? Because we COULD have had all the features we enjoy Now in Euro-asian stuff, all along,--Here, --in good old USA. All those jobs and famous nameplates'd still be with us. We'd be driving an awesome AMC... AMX..., made in 2012, and tearing-up the town, while getting great mile-age. Hey, check your water, and if it's floridated, get a water distiller, and wake up. PS. Is Barleycorn going to do AMX quarter-panels for us? ________________________________ From: Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, January 3, 2013 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [AMC-list] amc experimental engines & prototypes Don't forget the Barney Navarro 'experimental' engines. Later Jerry Sneva would be Indy Car racing in another AMX experimental engine in the #73 AMC Spirit Indy Car in 1976. It hit 184 mph before dropping a piston and finishing 31st. http://www.planethoustonamx.com/press_photos/76-indy-amc.jpg Eddie Stakes Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 days eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.planethoustonamx.com/ _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://list.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list-amc-list.com/attachments/20130103/71aa67bc/attachment.htm> _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com