That is bad, and is the kind of stuff that could force legislation on a fun hobby. I can understand if the owner simply doesn't know how to tune his or her car, or tried to tune it and just don't have the skill to do it properly (yet). And I'm guilty of fiddling with the screws on the carb hoping to lean it a bit, but not too much - or fiddling with the distributor hoping I'm getting the timing right. And wondering if my fuel mileage is about where it should be, or if I could get better. But if the owner doesn't know how, and isn't willing to open a TSM or Chilton's or Hayes, or join a car club and ask for pointers, or check an online group - then there is no excuse not to pay for service. On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:00 AM, Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Bruce, there are guys like you (and me, for that matter) who want to learn how to do the work themselves. And there are guys who don't care and just don't want to spend the money. I had this conversation is one of the Rambler club members on Saturday as we were watching the cars come in for the show in Sacramento. He had been on the club tour the day before with several of the club cars and had noticed the smelly exhausts on a couple of cars due to poor tuning. He has a Pacer with a 4.0 liter and he had to pass one of the cars because he couldn't tolerate the exhaust smell from it. You know, that rich exhaust smell that is so obnoxious. He said these guys just did not care to tune the cars themselves and certainly did not want to spend any money on having the work done. So they got poorer gas mileage, reduced performance and they polluted the atmosphere. True Rambler mentality. The result was a couple of nice > looking Ramblers that ran lousy and would definitely draw complaints from some fastidious driver following them in their new Prius. It gives the hobby a bad name, but what are you gonna do? > > Joe Fulton _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com