Re: [AMC-list] chinese amc emblems, jeeps, muscle cars oh my

[adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker)]

" From: Marc Montoni <Freedom@xxxxxxxx>
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" If we can't be the lowest-cost producers any more, then we are going
" to lose net wealth -- which is what has been happening the last
" couple of years.  When that sort of shift happens, health benefits,
" high taxes, paid sick leave, pensions, early retirement -- they are
" all destined to go away.  If you can't afford them, you can't afford
" them.

sick leave and pensions are already going, replaced with combined
sick/vacation paid days off and 401ks.  i didn't think anyone outside
of upper mgmt still had any early retirement options, and they're the
new capitalist imperialists.

" When the reality of the situation sinks in, Americans will eventually
" see that they're going to have to accept less pay, perks, debt, and
" waste.

i predict it will take a lot of pounding before it sinks in.  humans
have a tremendous capacity for self deception, self absorption, and
shortsightedness, and i think most americans will just continue to
complain that things aren't the way they used to be with no interest
in why.  their understanding will stop at the visible offshoring,
which is akin to explaining that a computer works by pushing the power
button.

btw this is happening in the islamic middle east too, where they want
to return to the pre-renaissance golden age, not realizing it was
based not on religious purity but on silk road money and trade with
the infidel, and it ended when the infidel learned how to bypass them.
there was actually tremendous religious freedom in islamic states
then.

" We're going to retire later in life (which is probably a good thing).

the retirement age of 65 was originally set by a bavarian count who
observed that few of his landsmen lived that long, so he figured it'd
be a cheap incentive...  there is already a trend to work later, even
among people who can retire but want something useful to do.

" Our fathers built a manufacturing powerhouse with a lot less pay and
" perks than we have now.  If Americans really want to be lowest-cost
" producers of manufactured goods again, it's going to have to tilt
" back that way again (less pay and perks).

it'd be nice to reverse the monstrous and growing worker-mgmt
disparity too.
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