Hi Bruce, Another sign of valve seals is typically right at start up, blue smoke then clears up after a few seconds as well as when you hit the gas pedal, you get a cloud of blue and then it goes away, valve seals. Rings will blow blue smoke almost all of the time the engine is running. and typically fouls plugs regularly unless the problem is slight. Nick Alfano Performance 4849-76 st. Kenosha, WI. 53142 262-308-1302 262-942-8271 after 6pm central and weekends Message: 1 Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 21:33:01 -0400 From: "Bruce Hevner" <scramblr@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-list] Valve Guide Seals Message-ID: <007101ca5380$c25b40c0$4711c240$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An easy test to check if it's guides or rings is,,, (only works on non-convertor cars) Warm up the engine and set the idle at about 2500 RPM let it run for several (about 10) minutes watching the exhaust (a sunny day works best). If the engine starts smoking then it goes away it's probably the valve seals. If the smoking continues at a pretty steady rate it's probably the rings. Not foolproof but it gives you a pretty good idea. But HEY,,, that's just me!! Bruce Hevner _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com