I'm in Lebanon, TN. (just east of nashville) I got a 63 Rambler Classic with an engine. I think it's the 196 OHV. Somebody once told me how to tell, but I can't remember. The tranny is automatic. If somebody could remind me how to tell what I have, maybe it's what you need. It's NOT the flat head. Need 196 for 61 Wagon I got a little more info: 1961 Classic, 196 OHV, automatic transmission. Located in Springfield, TN. This would be a crank with a "cone" on the end, I think. The "flat butt" crank for the auto didn't appear until late 62 or 63. I'm not sure if he needs a rebuilder or is looking for a running engine, I suspect the later. If a rebuilder is needed (bad block?) then any year 196 work provided the crankshaft in the original engine is good and can be used. If a running engine is needed it must be from an automatic equipped car. There was supposedly a cone attachment for the flat crank to allow using the auto, but I've never seen one, and don't know if the cone is pressed into the pilot pushing hole or made onto the crank. I suspect the later, and that the adapter pressed into the pilot hole. But that's just guessing on my part. The cone meets the torque converter and supports the front of it, so you can't run without the cone. I'm not sure if a later model "flat butt" crank converter and flexplate would work with the earlier transmission. -------- Date: Sun, 2 Aug 2009 15:05:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "gorhodes@xxxxxxxxxxxxx " Subject: Re: [AMC-list] AMC-list Digest, Vol 4, Issue 57 Help.I need 196 six cylinder motor for 1961 Rambler Station wagon.Anybody got one? -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list at amc-list dot com http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com _____________________________________________________________ Are you prepared for your exam 4TestsMail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://www.4testsmail.com/ _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com