I have gotten within a tad of 29 mpg in my 69 American. I have zero doubt that if I pulled the tires and went with a 70 or narrower tire it would knock down 30 no sweat! Rolling resistance on the now installed 60 series has to be the only thing stopping it now. I do not drive the car easy either, we are talking 75+mph at highway speed. Should beat 30 if I slowwed down too! I have wanted to build a DD for many a year, would do a 64-65 wagon in a 2door with skinnes. 4.0L stick. Hmmm, now that I have onboard pain control, maybe I can get back to this stuff... Anyone have a 64-65 American wagon? or perhaps just a plain old sedan will do... Mark Price Morgantown, WV 26508 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II "I realize that death is inevitable. I just don't want to be around when it happens!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Montoni" <Freedom@xxxxxxxx> To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, May 4, 2009 8:44:29 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [AMC-list] mileage tom jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> said: >> we got 23 mpg at 65 on the 700-odd miles from the nc/va line to boston >> in my gf's '01 cherokee, 4.0, auto. > >Wow, that's good. Comparable vehicle more or less too. There's not THAT >much difference evolutionarily from the 63 Classic to Cherokee, really. >Besides the obvious (engine, trans) I wonder what the next-biggest hits on >energy consumption are? Aerodynamics? (Cherokee doesn't look like an ogive >to me.) Well, let's see... The Chero of course is running a 4-spd OD with lockup (which eliminates slip at full speed)... I can't see the Chero being much different aerodynamically than a boxy 63... Curb weight on the 4-dr Chero is 3224, on the 2-door 3180; while the classic is between 2900 and 3100... Not much diff. I'm thinking emissions junk factors into mileage quite a bit; and I'm sure the Chero is geared a lot more precisely for efficiency. But from there??? I think if one were to de-tune the 4.0 to deliver the "just adequate" power of the older six (an 01 4.0 is 190 hp; the 63 195.6 is 127 hp, or 138 w/ 2 bbl, the 4.0 would probably approach 30 mpg. -- Marc _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com _______________________________________________ AMC-list mailing list AMC-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://list.amc-list.com/listinfo.cgi/amc-list-amc-list.com