Thanks for the links. I know it is off topic and I try to not get involved in political or financial threads or arguments. I tend to not get it quite well enough to say much. Been reading a blog by Dr.housingbubble.com somebody else on here sent me. Most of what the writer says is depressing, but for the last 6 months or so I have read it the guy has been driving nails in the coffin! He too mentions the falacy that groeth is needed and maintainable. HTF do they think that is POSSIBLE? We live on a finite world. The only way to grow forever is to well, leave the earth. A goal I support, but not ideal for most of business! Surely not ideal right now! Mark Price Morgantown, WV 26508 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrac II "I realize that death is inevitable. I just don't want to be around when it happens!" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Victor the Cleaner" <jonathan@xxxxxxxxxx> To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2009 11:23:35 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: Re: [Amc-list] aargh On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 07:17:36PM -0800, tom jennings wrote: > Corporate growth is insane. The idea is that a the measure of a successful > corporation is growth, not profit. A normal person woudl think making > $1,000,000 (or whatever appropriate number to scale) a year would be good, > accounting for business cycles and inflation and all that. But no -- the > measure is GROWTH. > > To be a success a business has to get larger every year -- literally > forever. Endlessly. Maybe this seemed possible-on-paper in 1850 when sailing > ships were high-tech. But it's completely disfunctional now and businesses > do crazy unsustainable things to meet that goal. > > It's the publicly traded corps that have this problem. Real, actual > businesses don't. I didn't really have a feel for this until I read "Neutron Jack" Welch's biography ("At Any Cost: Jack Welch, General Electric, and the Pursuit of Profit" - what an asshole). I think that's when I first realized how toxic and pernicious this insane notion of unlimited growth is. Fortunately, a movement recognizing how ridiculous and unsustainable it is is slowly bubbling up. I heard an interview with this fellow a couple of weeks ago, and I'm looking forward to getting his book: http://www.yorku.ca/fes/about/people/faculty/profiles/VictorPeterA.htm http://www.e-elgar.com/bookentry_mainUS.lasso?id=12594 jl _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list