" From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> " " [] " " You can get brand new Asian trucks with FIVE SPEED column shifts! wow. well, not much more than 4 on the tree... " A friend has a 61 Mercedes with a FOUR SPEED on the column. i can picture it! my grandmother had a '59. she was in the process of selling it to my brother when she died in the early '80s; i drive it a while before he could pick it up. i learned how to drive on a saab 96 with 4 on the tree, so i don't see it as strange. unless it was a deliberate disinformation plant, gm also flirted with 4-sp column shifters; the '88 mitchell interchange had a listing for such a column for the '69-ish g10/g20 vans. they also listed the tranny as a t-10 with the same 3.42 1st as the '83 camaro one, but it would've been a s1 super like the amc ones where the camaro's was a s3. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list