Things I learned from the PRI show; BUTANOL The only folks I could find who had ANY knowledge of Butanol were those crazy propeller head engineers from SHELL. They said there is no problem using it as a motor fuel to replace gasoline as far as they know. The big problem is in the economics of it. Currently the refining yield of Butanol is about HALF of Ethanol. They said it is also much harder to get that yield because Butanol is very sensitive to several things that can reduce the yield even more. That makes the price of Butanol twice that of Ethanol BEFORE subsidies. They are aware of the Dupont/BP partnership which was established to try and convert an Ethanol plant in Europe to Butanol. The partnership was established over two years ago. As far as they know there have been no advancements made with that and they felt if there were we certainly would have heard about it. With the current price of crude oil in the basement it doesn't look like we'll hear Butanol news anytime soon. CYLINDER HEAD GROOVING I asked most of the "big name" cylinder head companies there what knowledge they had of CHG (cylinder head grooving). NONE of them seemed to have any idea of what I was talking about! The ONLY company who had knowledge of it (and a pretty good one) was the folks at a small place called "Audie Technology" www.audietech.com. They said they had seen the web site and knew all about the claims. They too are VERY skeptical of any benefit from it and expressed concerns it might increase the tendencies towards detonation. They have not tested the theory however and knew no one who has. They also hope SOMEONE will do a back to back dyno test soon. I asked about the possibility that it might help "swirl" if the grooves were done at an angle. They said you have to be careful with inducing swirl as you can actually get too much! He said GM had done a LOT of research with swirl when they were developing the LS head. They found that using too much swirl can actually hurt performance. Too much acts as a centrifuge and spins the fuel out of the mixture where it collects on the cooler cylinder walls not burning properly. The magic number seems to be 100 RPM. This can be measured using their "Swirl Meter". These guys are VERY knowledgeable and spent a good bit of time talking with me. I recommend you take a look at their web site. They have a good selection of software and hardware including instructions on how to make your own flow bench! I had a great time at the PRI show looking at all the high dollar parts, talking with some of the top names in racing, and attending the technical seminars. If you are in the racing game in any form (it's a trade only show) I HIGHLY recommend you go! First full week in December, Orlando FL. Maybe I'll see you there as I did Jim Boone! But HEY,,, That's just ME!! Bruce Hevner -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://splatter.wps.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20081226/db24126d/attachment.htm _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list