Re: [Amc-list] '63 Ambo answers to questions noone asked!

["Jerijan" <jerijan@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Greetings,
If your engine is "Ramparts Red" (or Rambler Red), and it is original to
that car, then it IS a 327 LO compression (ie, two bbl).  The HiComp number
was more Orange (as in, umm, well, ChevyOrange)...ChevyOrange in fact is the
nearest color to that I've seen, and it's what I've used to recolor the
engines (in 58 up).
Jj


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Subject: Re: [Amc-list] '63 Ambo answers to questions noone asked!

On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 03:15:57AM -0500, Jerijan wrote:

> Greetings from under the snowbanks...

Yeah, us too.  And -30...

> Yeah, the 2 bbl were lower compression than the 4bbls, BUT keep in 
> mind that a 2bbl could have been added to an engine born with 4bbls.  

Fair enough, but there's nothing here that suggests anything's been
modified from stock, and it'd be weird for a a dealer to do a carb and
manifold swap downwards in '63.

> Therefore the ONLY way to surely tell is the piston itself...the 2bbl 
> has but one notch the 4bbl has two (or is it the other way around??)...

Man, I've *really* gotta get me a borescope.

> The bore is clearly on the land behind the right cylinder head...and the
> 'compression' and size is on the tag on the alternator bracket...assuming,
> of course, the bracket is original to that car!!

A true rarity, in my experience.

> So you could end up with a 327 bbl engine where a 287 2bbl was born and
not
> know it because the VIN says '287'!  
> Of course, engine color helps, but that, too, is changeable.  That is done
> using this chemical called, 'paint'.  

Again, the block is red, and nothing else suggests deviation from stock.

Well, since it's '63, it doesn't appear there's much to be learned from 
the serial/vin - the HT33 conforms to expectations, but doesn't provide
an engine code.  So I'll just have to go with the assumption that this
is the low-compression 327 until something suggests otherwise.

> You can tell an 'early' 327 from a later one by the location of the motor
> mounts.  57-62 is your 'early' engine, and then 63-up the laters.  Do keep
> in mind that these cannot be switched.  A 63 engine won't fit into a 62
> because the mount brace holes are simply not present in the other's 'vice
> versa'...that is, you can't just switch the placement of the mounts
because
> there isn't anyplace to put it.

Ah, I didn't know that.

> For the Trannys, if it has cable control (ie, push button), these cases
are
> not interchangeable either.  SO again, 62 and down, 63 and up.  
> For Select-o-matic vs Flash-O-Matic, these can be interchanged but some
have
> vacuum controls and others do not.  These can interchange but you'll
change
> some 'lines' and 'cables'.  Other than that...everything is just fine.
> Why, though, is '62 such a 'one year only' model?? Even the Package Net is
> year specific!

Not even *thinking* about trannies at this point.  Hope I don't have to in
the short term.

jl

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