Re: [Amc-list] Full flow 195.6 oil pump

[Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>]

I'm pretty sure you can Joe, as sure as I can be without having a pair of blocks and pumps here anyway. That extra passage appears to be to bypass oil back to the pan. If you leave the block bypass in place and block off the lower passage in the pump everything should work fine. You would want to take the by-pass out of the pump cover too though, so it won't try to push oil through the blocked passage. Might be able to use the older pump cover without by-pass valve. 

I'm pretty sure the 65 full-flow pump takes the same filter as the 232. The older 195.6 filter is an old industrial engine filter. 

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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 2008 09:58:25 -0800 (PST)
From: Joe Fulton <piper_pa20@xxxxxxxxxxx>


 From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>

> > Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Full flow 195.6 oil pump
> > To: "AMC List" <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Saturday, December 20, 2008, 8:52 AM
> > I was writing a little mention of not putting the full flow
> > pump on the 
> > older block for the next issue of AMC (won't go out
> > until just after 
> > Christmas, unfortunately... life gets in the way!), and it
> > dawned on me 
> > as to WHY the oil output changed. It's the location of
> > the pressure 
> > bypass! It's in the block of the older engines, so oil
> > HAS to go BACK to 
> > the bypass valve in the block! That's the passage that
> > is exposed when 
> > the full-flow pump is installed on an older block. There
> > should be no 
> > problem with simply blocking that off with a plate as I
> > suggested since 
> > the full-flow pump moves the by-pass valve to the pump
> > cover.
>   

So Frank, you are saying that I could plug the extra hole on the pump (where the oil is leaking from now) and it would work on a pre-1965 block?  I do plan to take some pictures later today and I'll be pulling the pump off again this morning.  I really would like to try to use the full flow oil filter if I can.

I never did get an answer to my question about the proper oil filter (Wix or Fram number) to go on that pump.  NAPA said a Fram PH11 was not correct and sold me a Napa Gold, but I don't have the number right here.  I think I put it in a previous post.

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