Only the early M-8 cast iron trans used the special crank. Even the Americans used the cast iron model until either 62 or 63. I know for susre the M-35 doesn't use the special crank, just not sure if it was introduced in 62 or 63 right now (my 63 American had one). All the later model BW autos use the same crank as the manual trans cars (flat crank flange). The 196 and 199/232/258/4.0L all use the same bolt pattern. The BW crank flanges are flat, the Torque Flite trans used a ridge or recess for centering the flexplate. BW torque conveters center with a stud that fits in the pilot bushing. IIRC the manual flywheels will all interchange on the sixes, with the difference being in the diameter (smaller for pre 72, larger for 72+), so you need ot use the flywheel for the bell bolt pattern you have or the starter won't engage. But they all bolt up. -------------- Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2008 23:08:10 -0700 From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> Hey, I've got a '59 195.6ohv engine with the auto crank here. I have an early 232 flywheel that I personally verified fits onto the back of a manual 195.6OHV, in the car. I have two junk clutches, the 9" and 10". Plus I have an early auto flexplate. PLUS! I have a 232 that has the exact same crank butt as the 195.6OHV manual. THEREFORE I can proof out what fits what and at least guesstimate what it would take to put the wrong parts together... I'll try to do that this weekend. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list