Re: [Amc-list] If you were me..

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

One, forget the 91 and bring it over to me :]
Two, the fourspeed depending on the build date may be a T4 and if so is fine to use behind the six.
T4 shares all the dimensions and gear ratios between sixes and fours.
Even the SR4 may be good to go behind the six if it is still good. I'm not sure what they used in those wagons exactly.
Three, Clutch master? I thought the 81 still had linkage in a Concord, but if not, the master can be used from either a concord or eagle six or four. The difference is that the 4cyl had a diff bore that created a stiff pedal. My only guess is they wanted the 4cyl driver to pay attention to what they were doing to decrease stalling!
Four, I'd take the American Wagon too :]

My build would be a nice stroker based on 4.0L backed by a T5 or even the T150, efi and drop it in either the 64 or the 81!

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

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From: "oldcars@xxxxxxxxx" <oldcars@xxxxxxxxx>
> OK, I have had a fair amount of good luck in finding cars, but now it is
> time to do someting with them
> 
> #1 - 81 Concord wagon, good body, 4 cyl 4 speed. Clutch went up some time
> ago and the pedal went down and is stuck there. NOBODY seems to have the
> clutch master cylinder, although the slave cylinder is the same as a Jeep.
> Honestly the 4 cyl is a little weak for the car but it is manageable. The
> engine runs quite well. Pretty sure it has a 3.73 rear. 
> 
> #2 - 75 Gremlin, drove it home from near Baltimore (over an hour on the
> road) and it ran OK. The car was originally from Minnesota and the body
> shows it as it is missing not only a lot of front floor but also the rocker
> box on the passenger side and this defect even goes up to where the
> passenger seat belt lower mount would attach. Honestly I love Grems but I
> am afraid this one has rust that is beyond repair. Its drivetrain is a good
> old 232 1-barrel with a 150-T trans. Not sure what the axle ratio is but I
> believe it is either 3.31 or 3.73. 
> 
> #3 - 64 American wagon. Hasn't been driven since about 1988. Flathead 6
> with T96 3 speed, accelerator linkage is messed up. No clue on axle ratio.
> 
> So...looking at the first 2 cars, I have a great drivetrain in one and a
> good body in the other. I guess I will need to move over the crossmember to
> move the 232 and 3 speed into the Concord, and of course it would mean no
> way to get it through smog tests so it would always have to be registered
> as an antique. It looks like I would have to modify the shifter hole since
> they don't match up perfectly. The Grem has a multi-pattern bell so I do
> know it has holes for a T96 but doubt it would work for the SR4 and anyway
> it is the 4-cyl version. I had bought a bell for the 6cyl SR4/T4/T5, but
> not sure I would want to pay the cost of a T5, and I am not sure that the
> internal clutch parts from the 150T would work with any other trans. 
> 
> So, should I merge the two? 
> 
> That would open up another possibility, since I am not too fond of the idea
> of the flathead (although it ran well when parked). Since the American
> wagon is much lighter than the Concord wagon, the Iron Duke should do
> better there. The question would be whether I could get the 1964 clutch
> internals to work in the bell from the 81 2.5, and also whether I could
> modify the 2.5 liter clutch housing to work with the T96 - it looks like at
> least a couple of the transmission housing front bolts would line up; not
> sure whether the center hole for the input shaft would be the same. The T96
> is already in place and working, and anyway I know where I can get a brand
> new (open driveshaft) T96 with OD from a Studebaker parts vendor, so I have
> a built-in upgrade path. 
> 
> I saw a Car Craft article (URL is
> http://www.carcraft.com/projectbuild/116_0703_rambler_american/photo_01.html
> ) where they swapped a Gremlin cross member into a 67 American. So, I
> figure that the 4-cyl crossmember would work in the 64 American. 
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Jim
> 
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