" From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> " " I dislike power steering, but I want a fast box. I realize that " means high force, but a light car and big wheel takes care of " that, and it can't be worse than my Classic Wagon. you can get 16:1 manual boxes; i have one on my american. i can one hand it at any reasonable road speed, and that includes stoplight corners. parking can take some effort though. it's about 3t l-l. ps boxes go down to ~12:1; while easier to find is it a meaningful gain? my gear came from an amx that converted to ps. it bolted right in. before they went to integral ps, i believe 16:1 manual boxes were common on ford ps setups. i know they lagged quite a bit behind saginaw; ironic, as iirc they used saginaw manual gears. " Anyone given thougt to removing the power-assist junk inside " the box? Can it be done, to convert to manual? i don't see why not. i'm not sure you can take the piston off, but you can remove its seals. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list