Re: [Amc-list] Model Names (was Re: cross country on ebay-hood spears?)

["jerijan baldwin" <jerijan@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

The Names were:
Nash..was the 'Marque' of EVERYTHING Thru (that is including) 1957.  Nash
Rambler, Nash Ambassador, Nash Statesman (gone in '57).
In 1958 there was a new 'Marque', "Rambler".  The Ambassador was 'upscale',
and since 'Rambler' was intended to portray economy, the Ambassador's
'original' name was "Ambassador by Rambler" (to sort of distance it from the
'low class' (or is that 'economy minded'?)).
So, 'officially', everything starting with the '58 model year was 'Rambler'
(Rambler American, Rambler Six (then Rambler Classic starting in 1961),
Rambler Ambassador (nee 'Ambassador by Rambler').  
The 'actual' nomenclature, however, was 'AMC' (as in AMC
Metropolitan--Metropolitan was NEVER a 'Rambler' although it was a Nash
(1954-1957) or Hudson (same years).  Naturally, Hudson was also a badge
engineered insertion into the AMC lineup starting with the Hash of '55
(Hudson Wasp and Hudson Hornet), but there were Hudson Ramblers right along
with Nash Ramblers commencing in 1955 and running thru 1957.  Again, in '58,
everything became 'Rambler' (but NOT AMC Rambler.  That change would not
come until later).
In 1965, the last Rambler Ambassadors were produced.  For '66 you'd find
instead AMC Ambassador along with AMC Rebel (the successor to the Classic
line).  Classic went out in '66 I believe and in '67 you had a Rebel
instead.  "Rebel" has been the name for the 8 cylinder version of the
"Rambler 6" (precursor to the Classic)...when the 265 V-8 was installed into
the 6's engine cavity, Presto!, you got a Rebel (of course, that was NOT THE
Rambler Rebel of 1957 which was the 4dr ht body with gold anodized trim
spears into which the Ambassador 327 engine was dropped (and a few other
goodies added for 'performance'). That Rebel was the car the Playboy's sang
about in their 1958 hit, 'BeepBeep' ("A Little Nash Rambler was following
me, when what to my surprise...").
The only Rambler name operative from 1967 onward was that of the
American...it was officially 'Rambler American' (NOT AMC Rambler American
which is the name under which it has come to be 'registered' as...the
'Marque' was AMC but ONLY 'in name', not fact.  It was a Rambler (Marque)
American (type) 220, 330, 440 (trim level).  Add Rogue, SCRambler toward the
very end...
In 1969 it was over for 'Rambler'.  The American's successor was the Hornet
(as manifested by the '10' series designation).  The Gremlin was sort of an
afterthought (and the Gremlin's birthday is coming up, April 01!..April
Fools day!) and they had to make Gremlin '40 series')...but why confuse
anyone...the point is...
Rambler VERY Early, 1902-1912 (or so.  What IS the actual 'end' of Rambler
#1?)
Then Rambler 'reborn' in name, 1950.  It was the 'Nash Rambler' until 1955
when the boxy Rambler replaced it (it being the 3rd generation of the 'new
Rambler) in '56.  That '56 iteration was the platform for 'Rambler 6' (and
the Rebel and the Classic, (even including the Ambassador from '62-64))up
thru the enlargement in '67 (and the end of "Rambler Classic" and birth of
"Rebel".
Then Rambler's use was narrowed to only the American from '67 thru '69 and
then disappeared entirely when it 'Rambled down the road into the history
books forever'.
The last successor to the 'NewRambler' was the Eagle of the Hornet descent.
When they 'died' (in 1988) the very last AMC went with 'em.  It isn't
reaching far fetched to say 'Eagle' was a Rambler, for it was.
The Eagle name ends in Japan with Mitsubishi's Eagle (The Talon), but that
has no real connection with AMC whatever.  
Jeep was a 'cousin' by marriage, so it doesn't count.
We are orphans now in every respect.
But proud ones!

Jj


-----Original Message-----
From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of RetroRalph
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:25 PM
To: AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans.
Subject: [Amc-list] Model Names (was Re: cross country on ebay-hood spears?)

We had Hudson Ramblers and Nash Ramblers 55 and 56.  57 I think was AMC 
Ramblers.  I think the difference was which dealership sold them. 
Either Nash or Hudson.  I think they got the dealerships consolidated by 
1957 model year.
My uncle had a small Hudson dealership in NoDak.  I spent summer of '57 
working for him. (I mostly worked on grain combines :)

For a pretty complete illustration of all models,see: 
http://www.oldcarandtruckpictures.com/AmericanMotors/AmericanMotors.html
______________________________________________________________
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: jerijan baldwin
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] cross country on ebay-hood spears?

Yuppers,
The '56 was the first 'boxy' look...tough to tell apart from the '57. 
The
American was 'reborn' from minor sheet metal changes out of the '55.
The '56 and '57 were actually 'Ramblers', but there was NO '57 
Statesman,
only '56.  '57 and '56 both saw Ambassadors though.
Jj

-----Original Message-----
On Behalf Of JOE FULTON
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] cross country on ebay-hood spears?

There wasn't a 56 Rambler was there?  Just 55 and then
the rambler was reborn in 58?  I thought the 56, 57,
years only had Nashes and Hashes.

Joe Fulton

--- jerijan baldwin <jerijan@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hood Spears...
> It appears they first appeared on the hood of the
> 'all new' 1956 Rambler> (this is the car which replaced the '55 
> Rambler
> which would later be> 'reborn' as the American).



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