2.87 was the common gearing for autos on the early 60s big cars w/327, with 3.15 as an optional performance gear. The 4V cars all got 3.15 as standard, 2.87 would have been available as an option. Manual trans (T-89) got 3.54 standard, 4.10 optional -- with or without OD! I'm looking in a 1961 TSM -- 3.54 standard gears is hard to believe even then in a Rambler! Just checked the 62 TSM -- same thing. Gas was cheap back then, and Ramblers were quicker than anyone thought! But you had to be in an Ambassador. The Classic only got a 250 in 61, but it had 4.10 gears in a manual, with or without OD, with 4.44 optional. With auto the 250 had 3.15s w/3.55 optional. No economy model, but couldn't have been a slouch! The 195.6 was the econo model -- even it had 3.31 gears with the auto (3.78 optional). The big car needed it. I had 3.31 gears in my 63 Classic for a while and it was marginal. 3.31 was the optional "performance" gear in my 63 American (196 OHV auto). It was a decent perf ormer with that. Tried 3.78 -- just made the engine turn faster at speed, no noticeable gain in performance at all. Might have been a tenth of a second or two from 0-60, but the mileage hit at higher cruising speed was very noticeable -- engine ran 500 rpm more in high gear at any speed. ------------------- " My 62 Ambassador 400 with 327 got 18, 19 MPG on a run from " massachusetts to Maryland. OK it was in 1975 or so, and the " motor was young(ish). That car had tall tires and a 2.37 axle " (I think it was). I forget the mileage on it, 60K? 80K? I " treated it fairly well, but I popped the transmission doing " W's and donuts with it. Duh. I was 20, so long ago now that " I'm not even embarrassed. nit: no 2.37 -ever- for the amc20. 3.15 or more likely 2.86. in the jeep era [late '70s] they added a '2 series' carrier and 2.73 and 2.56 gears, and 3.07, 3.31 for the '3 series'. the way the amc motor is set up, 2.56 would be a great highway gear. there was a 2.37 for the amc15 - 232/auto american rogue, similar early-'70s hornet. " What axle and tires you got? good point! maybe he's got 3.54s? -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://splatter.wps.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/amc-list