Re: [Amc-list] Hold down spring yanker thing - huh?

[Matt Haas <mhaas@xxxxxxx>]

Archimedes wrote:
> I said:
> 
>> Bruce Griffis <bruce.griffis@xxxxxxxxx> said:
>>
>>> Okay, I read the brake section in the TSM. Went to the library and picked up Chilton's "Brakes, Steering and Suspension" book and read the section on drum brakes. Tossed in Popular Mechanics "Saturday Mechanic" as well. All fine and good reading - BUT - how do I grab hold of the loop on the end of the hold down spring, pull it through the corresponding hole in the drum, and hook it on to the retaining clip?
>> You can do them with a screwdriver, several beers, and a lot of swearing; but you really need the second tool on this page:
>>
>> http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2390
>>
>> Here's how to use them:
>>
>> http://www.mustangmonthly.com/projectbuild/mump_0103_front_drum_brake_rebuild/photo_04.html
>>
>> You can even still use the beer when using the right tools.  Just be sure to stop at one twelve-ounce; otherwise you might end up connecting the brake to the accelerator pedal like all those Audi owners did.
> 
> to which russ hathaway <russh97309@xxxxxxxxx> said:
> 
> 
> 
>> Marc, since Bruce is working on a 64 330 I think he is
>> talking about the brake shoe holddown springs that
>> look like a little tornado, not the return springs.
>> Those are the ones that usually get all stretched out
>> of shape when people start yankin' shoes without
>> knowing how to remove them.
>> Use the screwdriver like I said, Bruce, and you won't
>> stretch those springs. They are made out of
>> unobtanium, ya know.......Russ 
> 
> 
> OK, that's the top tool on the second page of the links.
> 
> http://www.matcotools.com/ProductImages/MST101.jpg
> 
> http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/toolcatalog.jsp?cattype=T&cat=2390&select=&page=2
> 
> You just hold the back of the retainer pin so it can't move, put the slotted washer into the tool, add the spring, then push the tool and parts down onto the pin, watching to see whether you have the pin lined up with the slot (thus the open sides of the tool).  Once you see the pin's wide part is through the slot, you twist your tool 90 degrees to lock the washer/spring on.
> 
> Both the retainer spring tool and the return spring tool are locally available at any auto parts seller worth his salt.  I bought mine at either Advance or Pep Boys, and they're still found in both places.
> 
> There really is NO substitute for correct toolage.
> 
> -- Marc
> 
> P.S.  Since when are the retainer springs unobtainium?  I bought a full prepackaged set for my 65 Amerikesh less than a month ago.  There are just a few standard sizes that manufacturers all shared; they would just mix & match various springs, retainers, clips, etc to make up each car's brake hardware kit.  If AutoZone, Advance/Parts America, and Pep Boys can't help, he should check NAPA & Carquest.  Then Kanter's.

Marc,

There's been a change in the hold down hardware that's being packaged 
with the six cylinder spring kits. The type 
(http://info.rockauto.com/Raybestos/H4092-1.jpg) the tool you've linked 
to aren't being packaged anymore. The type that Bruce has 
(http://info.rockauto.com/Raybestos/H7037-1.jpg) uses a T shaped 
retainer that goes into the backing plate (the hole is just above the 
backing plate when installed) and a spring that goes from the shoe to 
the retainer.

Matt

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