Re: [Amc-list] why "upgrade"?

[Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx]

Speaking of wind noise.
Does anyone know if putting in the replacement wing window seals
someone started repoping makes any difference?
Between wind noise and my stereo cranked up so I can hear it I 
go about half deaf!
  I remember there always being wind noise, anyway the new seals help?
I'd consider taking them out if i thought it would make a difference, but
man that would kill the nostalgia!
Though after a 110 miles today, I'm not feeling very nostalgic!

--
Mark Price
Morgantown, WV
1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
2004 Grand Cherokee Laredo, 4.7L, Quadratrc II
" Chronic Pain Hurts"

 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx>
> My 63 Classic has been upgraded a good bit -- Jag IRS, AMC/Jeep 4.6L EFI six, 
> AW-4 auto trans (w/manual controller), T-bird rack and pinion steering, 79 
> Spirit front disc brakes (plus Jag rear discs), S-10 tilt steering column, power 
> bucket seats from a 90 or 91 Eagle Premier (at least it's somewhat AMC!), and 
> 90s Ford Ranger power booster/master cylinder. Even so, it hardly feels like a 
> modern car. You still have the wind noise and occasional vibrations and sounds 
> from the 63 body that modern cars just don't have. So even with extensive 
> upgrading you still have some of that "old car" feel. I've left the original 
> instrumentation alone simply because the 1-12 speedo is part of the "Rambler 
> look". But I agree with you in principle, old cars should be enjoyed for what 
> they are, not envious of what they aren't! My goal when building was to build a 
> modern Rambler, something similar to what AMC would have been capable of 
> producing had they kept the 63-66 body through the mid 80s. 
> 
> I've always felt they should have kept the 69 Rambler (American) sedan and gave 
> it a facelift to replace the Rebel instead of a bigger car, but stretch it to 
> the 112" wheelbase of the 63-66 Classic for more leg room. Drop the Ambo, then 
> use the Matador as the largest car, especially since the main difference between 
> the Matador and Ambo is the extended wheelbase that adds no room! The American 
> could have even had a similar extension and replaced the bog body altogether. 
> Similar to what Chrysler did in the 80s -- using the Volare/Aspen body to 
> repalce their big cars. Would have kept AMC as the compact leader and saved lots 
> of money with just two major car lines (Hprnet/Gremlin then the American/Ambo 
> combo). Could have even left the American name on the smaller one. Then spend 
> money on developing a good four for the Gremlin instead of more car models. I 
> think attempting to compete with the big three was a fatal mistake, and history 
> seems to prove me correct. Just one of the thi
>  ngs I'd have considered, but then I have 20/20 vision in the matter working for 
> me now! 
> 
> INCORRECT TOM!! My car had the M-35 with 3.31 axle. You're forgetting that the 
> torque converter has a torque multiplication factor of at least 2.5:1 (more 
> likely 3:1). So you need less axle for the same performance. I installed a 3.78 
> axle from an OD car behind my auto once. Left it in their about two months then 
> switched back. No performance gain whatsoever -- at least nothing noticeable. 
> The only thing it did was increase engine rpm by 500 at cruising speed. A stick 
> has to have more gear since there is no torque multiplication helping it out. 
> Now the stock 2.87 gear would probably have been a dog in comparison to the 
> 3.31. 
> 
> ---------------
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:38:31 -0800
> From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx>
> 
> I'm all for -- if you are driving and old car, it should drive like an old 
> car. OK scary brakes and crappy tires must go, etc, but utterly modernizing 
> an old car -- what's the point? Get a modern car!
> 
> The secret is I think as I said before, the 3.77 axle and manual trans. 
> With an auto and around 3:1 this car would suck for performance. 
> 
> -- 
> Frank Swygert
> Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
> Magazine (AMC)
> For all AMC enthusiasts
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> (free download available!)
> 
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