My floor shifter caused me to shift into two gears at once That was one week after spending $1,000 getting the box rebuilt in my 64 Classic I cried at the time The fault was with the shifter and the detents / lockouts got messed up The best ever box I had in my Classic a friend built for me from all my broken boxes this lasted about a year I spent over $4,000 on Rambler gearboxes before I could no longer get parts (pre internet) I was a struggling student over this period as well The Toyota 5 speed was the best ever thing I have done to my car should have done it years earlier Of course I was young and had put the 232 into my Classic by then and was never easy on my car. I am sure being older and in a lighter car I could live with that gearbox now I got to the point where I could drop the gearbox out in 45 minutes after pushing it onto the garage and all the sockets & spanners I wore out were the ones that fitted the gear box Ahh the memories Stu -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Frank Swygert Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2007 3:24 AM To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx; Tom Jennings Subject: Re: [Amc-list] woo woo! (locked T-96!) I don't think the floor shifter can get "crossed up" like the column shifter can. The column shifter jams due to looseness in the column mechanism, which then allows it to engage both levers at the same time, jamming (the shifter, not the trans) because it can't move both tranny levers. Most likley it's that third "dog" I was telling you about! There is a quick fix, but you have to drop the tranny. With the trans out take off the top cover and look for the synchronizer ring. It shouldn't be hard to find, especially with two missing dogs. There will be a space where the dogs were, about 3/16" wide, in the synchronizer body. When you find the third dog just reach down with a pair of needle nose pliers and jerk it out. Now you have a trans with no synchronization at all. As I was told years ago when a friend of my dad's "fixed" mine the same way -- "you'll get used to shifting and stop grinding gears after a bit of driving." Of course you can drop in your spare and drive four s peed style. That is your best bet -- you don't want to grind to much on that Twin-Stick gear set, which is most likely unavailable now. ------------------- Date: Wed, 07 Nov 2007 21:49:19 -0800 From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> After a grueling drive home tonight from Irvine to LA (one 50 - 0 mph panic stop, many 10mph crawls) I pulled into the driveway, declutched to drop to N to unlock the gate... won't pull from 3 into N! Totally stuck! Got it in in 3rd. Let's hope it's the shifter locked up... 3rd seems OK so so it's not crossed up. Will tell in the AM. Talk about good timing! -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html (free download available!) _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - Release Date: 9/11/2007 7:29 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - Release Date: 9/11/2007 7:29 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.27/1121 - Release Date: 9/11/2007 7:29 PM _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list