Since the Gladiator was only a concept vehicle, I see no likelihood of you finding one for sale. <G> The Liberty is a heavy turd that drives clunky and eats wheelbearings and brakes. Many are already doing the solid axle swap in the front just for longevity and reliability. The Commander (this year's model) gets better fuel economy than the 3.7 with a hemi in it! Both have auto trans issues at low mileage. From: Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [Amc-list] OT: Patriot or Liberty? To: strokers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Strokers), AMC-DelMarVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-DelMarVA: yahoogroups.com), amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC List) Message-ID: <101220070349.20975.470EEED1000E8945000051EF2216554886CDCBCD0A0C079D9F059D0E03@xxxxxxxxxxx> looking for a new or slightly used Jeep. Needs to be an automatic :[ We have a listing local for an 04 Liberty, 49k miles for $10K New we are looking at Patriot, the lifetime power train warranty and MPG is appealing. Wife wants a car, this is the closest we see compromise between Jeeps and cars. Keep in mind, we will tow nothing larger then a waverunner with it. I know it's a glorified car in Jeeps clothing! I hate the Gladiators styling. The Liberty, what is true about it? What MPG do autos actually get with the 3.7? Power, towing? Problems to look for? I know these aren't "real" jeeps and they will never see a stroker, but they still have jeep badging and its for my wifes, well after spring! The deal is we buy it, I drive it till spring, Then if my shoulder will allow I will take the Cherokee Sport for mine and she gets the Patriot or Liberty. If I can't manage the day to day in the 5 speed Cherokee at that point I will sell it and find me an older automatic. I want to be able to keep the Cherokee as-is. I did feel much better today when i got to work without driving the stick, so I know in the search of sanity I will sell it in the spring if I must. Unless I decide to do a swap to AW4! It's a good Cherokee, only 74K on a 97, It may be better to do a trans swap... Thanks for any input, lets not clog up the lists. Hit me at markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxx -- Mark Price _________________________________________________________________ Boo! Scare away worms, viruses and so much more! Try Windows Live OneCare! http://onecare.live.com/standard/en-us/purchase/trial.aspx?s_cid=wl_hotmailnews -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20071012/562cc4fc/attachment.htm _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list