You know you guys are correct about the squeak and groan of urethane front end parts, I had to finally decide that I wasn't going to smear lube all over everywhere to lose the groan, I did try small dabs here and there but the groan keeps coming back. I then decided that I would wear my groan as a badge of honor fit for a fine gentleman such as John Elle who helped me find a very easy and very workable solution to me keeping my 70 Javelin on the road and safe to drive. Thanks again John for the help with the spring perch solution. Armand P.S. I think I get more racket coming from my Bendix disc conversion than the urethane parts. I also think just about all that noise will go away when I finally get some real tires (radials) on the car. The Javelin seems to be very stiffly sprung and some of the give starts in the sidewall of a radial... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandwich Maker" <adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [Amc-list] A front suspension idea! > " From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> > " > " I don't know why everyone is so in love with those 70-up ball joint upper > " arms. They have their problems too! > > their major advantage now is that parts - at least more of them - are > easier to find than for the trunnion setups. > > " I know that the 64-69 AMX type trunnion has problems; I've not torn one > " down, but there's some weird rubber part that wears badly, and I don't know > " how good aftermarket urethane replacements hold up. > > iirc the best aftermarket replacement is made from uhmwpe. this is > polyethylene with a molecular weight around 3 million - for > comparison, motor oil is about 30. i have a sample somewhere around > here, postcard size, 1/4" thick. it -clinks- when you drop it, very > hard. it's still polyethylene-slick. > ________________________________________________________________________ > Andrew Hay the genius nature > internet rambler is to see what all have seen > adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought > _______________________________________________ > Amc-list mailing list > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.32/1032 - Release Date: 9/26/07 8:20 PM > > _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list