SNIP Well there you go. I agree with you on design for conditions. I assume people did more maintenance then, and skinny hard bias ply tires, lower highways speeds (is that true?), expectations, etc etc, and it was probably fine then. But times does march on. SNIP A Ramble through time. 1953 - Firestone The company introduces the Firestone "500" all-nylon tubeless tire designed for high speed passenger cars. 1963 - Goodyear Introduces the Double Eagle with a Lifeguard Safety Spare; ... 1963 - Goodyear . Use of polyester cord introduced Times were changing and this precedes the Bias Belted tire introduced about 1965 or so and common use of the radial tire which in AMC land was an option in 1980. In 1963 many states had 50 and 55 mph speed limits with the relatively new 4 lane interstates or toll roads with speed limits ranging from 60 mph to 75 mph and a small sampling of mid west states with unlimited speed limits, depending on the state of course with some restrictions. My experience on driving some of the available cars of that time was a mixed bag. Most of the newly designed V8 automobiles were fast and powerful and very contemporary in almost any tune. Some of the V8 engines were second generation with 1st generation designed just after WWII, and there were no more in line engines with more than 6 cylinders. However even the newest of the I-6 engines were still a throw back to 1930 design criteria and for the most part were under square engines, the stroke longer than the diameter of the bore, generally under carbureted and had a cam that was designed to give maximum torque at rpm's just off of a fast idle which gave the illusion of low speed performance while falling on their face at any sustained high rpm. These cars were hard pressed to exceed 80 mph and were not purchased for the most part to exist in an environment that fostered high cruising speed. Tires were not that much different from technology that existed left over from the 30's and although there were many brands to be had, not many came from Japan, Korea or China or pretty much any other country however radial tires were being dabbled with in Europe at the time and were supplied on cars sold here in quantities that were small but steadily growing larger. Here bias ply tires reigned supreme with the Firestone 500 probably the most famous of the famous and represented the premium performance tire of the era! My primary driver during that time was a 1957 French Simca Elyses with a 4 speed column shift, a 1300 cc 4 cylinder engine that I had milled the head on and made an adapter for the intake manifold that allowed me to use a Stromberg 95 2bbl carburetor off of a V8 85 flat head. I could out run Stage II midgets with my 4 door sedan and I traded it for a 1960 Plymouth 2 door hard top with a 225 slant 6 in 1964. Heady stuff at the time. Push button transmission and all! Eventually the slant 6 became modeled after what was known as the Hyper-Pack package as outlined by the Direct Connection section of Chrysler and eventually lead to my Fuel Injected I-6 Spirit. My first performance V8 (other than the '32 Ford w/poked and stroked 48 Mercury flat head became my 1970 Mark Donohue 390 which I still own and enjoy. Yup, the world is different today and technology has changed many things but for some reason or another the AMC products that have not be produced since 1988 but were contemporary in their time, are still capable of serving as daily transportation with out having to justify their existence in any particular fashion other than they exist and can get the job done. Every time I see the Mobile 1 oil commercial with the Mustang featured where the message is with proper lubricants and care your collector car can last well into the future, I wonder just how many years in the future I can still walk out of my house and put a key in my Favorite AMC and wheel it out into the road to do battle with the daily commute or what is represented as such. But trying to guess why things were done the way that the were done a half a century ago, not sure that I can or that it is worth the effort as long as it still works today. I need to buff out the 80 AMX as there is a car show coming up and the paint has faded a bit. But, it will be driven there, not trailered as that is the way I like 'em. John. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20070915/8c3c0566/attachment.htm _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list