Re: [Amc-list] Javelin Clutch/Brake Assembly Interchange?

["Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Mark,

What you're saying here I find quite curious, Oh, of course, 69 parts from
an AMX will fit 69 parts from a Javelin, but my experience with actually
holding the 68/69 pedal parts in my hand and comparing them with 70/71/72/74
parts showed clearly that the 68/69 are definitely not the same pieces as
the 70. Remember the 68/69 Javelins and AMXs are some what different that
the 70 AMX and Javelin. I believe the closer mate for the 70 year cars is
the later humpster Javelins/AMXs. But perhaps you are correct in saying that
if you use ALL the parts then you would be OK. Remember in my earlier post,
I was saying that I never compared the diameters of the fulcrum shafts for
the pedals, so that could be a problem, if they don't interchange, and you
are forced to exchange the bracket bolted to the firewall. I guess a guy
could always drill more holes in the firewall. If I remember correctly the
68/69 bracket bolts to the firewall with five fasteners, whereas the 70 and
later uses four fasteners. I wonder how much all this has to do with the
design changes for the dashes from year to year.

While we're at it, I had trouble finding the exact rubber boots for the
linkage rod that goes through the firewall and the clutch lever arm boot at
the bellhousing. I used stuff I found from a Jeep that was close but for
some reason not the same. Any one got a source for these two boots?


Armand


----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Wrambler242@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "AMC/Rambler owners, drivers and fans." <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Amc-list] Javelin Clutch/Brake Assembly Interchange?


> I have been told that Javelin, AMX, pedals will interchange amongst the
years as long as you stay with the same year stuff when swapping. As in 69
will fit in 70 if  you use all 69 parts.
>    I have not done this.
>
> --
> Mark Price
> Morgantown, WV
> 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5
> " I was different before people dared to be different"
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
> From: "Armand Eshleman" <aje1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Brian,
> >
> > The pedal/linkage assemblies are definitely different. Go to American
Parts
> > Depot:
> >
> >  http://www.americanpartsdepot.com/ClutchIllustrations2.htm
> >
> > and view the illustrations from the TSMs.
> >
> >
> > I believe you may be able to make them work but I was unwilling to try
that
> > for my swap.
> >
> > I once had an assembly from the 68-69 car in my possession. I returned
it to
> > the seller because it was supposed to be the 70 to 74 version which it
was
> > not. The pedal arms are bent differently and, unfortunately I never
checked
> > to determine if the bushings and shafts are the same diameters, but I
have a
> > hunch they may be. There may be other differences with the bracket
mounting
> > and master cylinder mounting.
> > I currently have an assembly from a 71 or 72 Javelin in my 70 Javelin.
All I
> > had to do was exchange the shafts of the pedals and the bushings in and
out
> > of my existing pedal/master cylinder/steering column bracket to exchange
my
> > automatic pedal for the manual pedals.
> > I currently have an assembly from a 74 Javelin (everything under the
dash
> > including the pedal/master cylinder/steering column bracket) and the
push
> > rod. The pedals and bracket are the same as my 70 Javelin, but I think
the
> > rods that stabilize the steering column end of the bracket are
different.
> > For some reason AMC did not exactly duplicate all the pieces from 70 to
74,
> > there are differences but I think they still exchange without too much
> > trouble 70 to 74.
> >
> > Armand
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "BRIAN GOODMAN" <goodmab@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 9:58 PM
> > Subject: [Amc-list] Javelin Clutch/Brake Assembly Interchange?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am swapping a '71 AMX T-10 into a '69 Javelin SST with an automatic.
Will
> > the clutch/brake pedal assembly from the '71 fit into the '69?  If not
does
> > anyone have one they want to swap?  Thanks.  Brian G.
goodmab@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> >
> >
> >
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