My first 64 had 232K on it. IIRC, it's history was a valve job and in car rering about midway thru it's life -- Mark Price Morgantown, WV 1969 AMC Rambler, 4.0L, EFI, T-5 " I was different before people dared to be different" -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Frank Swygert <farna@xxxxxxx> > There were other seemingly odd and pointless (considering the engine was being > phased out) modifications made in the last year or two. The cam bearing size > changed in 64 or 65 also. Building a 195.6 made after mid 63 model year can be a > real headache getting the right cam and bearings now. I think the changes were > related to testing 232 items, but no way to verify that. Might have been changes > to reduce inventory, but I don't know if the late 195.6 cam bearings are the > same as the 232 or not -- of course the cam itself is different (195.6 is about > 3" shorter than a 232). Who knows? > > I'm not sure the lack of an oil filter is a long term reliability factor in the > old engine design. The first L-head I owned had 170K+ on it and had never been > torn apart. The first OHV I rebuilt had 130-140K on it and was still running > decent. It had been run hot one or two times to many and the rings were loosing > tension. The relatively slow turning engines seemed to be fine with a partial > flow filter. Solid lifters helped -- no small passages to stop up. That's one > reason the aluminum engine required a full flow filter. I've never seen a > hydraulic lifter engine without a full flow, but then by the time hydro lifters > became common so had the full flow filter. More filtering never hurt, as long as > there's plenty oil flow after the filtering. > > ------------------- > Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:55:49 -0700 > From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> > > Hell yeah! It looks like the weak point for long-term reliability with this > motor could be solved. It's odd they bothered to add it to the last year's > motors. It probably "fell out" of the 232 design/deploy phase; the aluminum > 195.6 apparently shares valve train components with the 232 (you can probably > drop 4.0 lifters in it!) > > -- > Frank Swygert > Publisher, "American Motors Cars" > Magazine (AMC) > For all AMC enthusiasts > http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html > (free download available!) > > _______________________________________________ > Amc-list mailing list > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list _______________________________________________ Amc-list mailing list Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list