Re: [Amc-list] Saturn SC 2 - 'Regression Therapy' -
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Re: [Amc-list] Saturn SC 2 - 'Regression Therapy' -



"used Tires are big money "

Not so much. We still have to pay to have them taken away. Every tire we
sell has a disposal surcharge added. Yeah, they get recycled, but nobody's
steeling them for the money yet...

Kelly

On 5/16/07, Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> Well ...YEahh~!........
>
>
> I hate rust - every car I have / had gets rust from
> this NEW YORK weather - even if it isn't WINTER........
> acid rains land here from Ohio coal burners - forest is
> 'burnt' looking - my Cherokee has rot in the quarters now -
>
>
> I'm using Rust Killing Paint they use on the North Sea Oil
> Derrek Rigs - I HATE rust........
>
> that said -
>
> Saturn's Made in America - Saturn is ....... dunno how much longer
> the way things are going -
>
> all the great Saturn reviews I've read are the pre '03 cars -
> people LOVE  them........ the '03 and up reviews aren't so great
> and the cars look ugly.
>
> The SC 2 reminds me of those Studebaker 'Turret Top' cars -
> '51 ?
>
> Mine has got to be Black ..... maybe Green if I see one -
> saw a Yellow....... eesch...
>
> Recycling ?
>
> Yeah - they said the same thing about Tires years ago -
> were burning them in pits out in Cali. -
>
> then - someone found a way to strip out the radial metals
> & plys - ground up the rubber & made Sandals 'n such -
> they sell.......
>
> and - they use the ground up tire rubber in Roadway Tarmac -
> repaving roads with used tire rubber in the mix - so NOW.....
> used Tires are big money !
>
> Composite added to something else at some point in time
> will solve the problems - always has worked out that way -
> just a combination for a new application.
>
> Everything these days has a cash value - someone will figure
> a way to make used Saturn composite panels paay........
>
> In the meanwhile - I'll take that weight savings all the way
> to my AMC Kammback project.......$$$ I'm not paying hauling
> around STEEL panels 'n skins that I'd have to pay $$ to get
> fixed after the weather takes its' toll in 2 years sitting
> outside in the Condo lot........them Venolia pins cost MONEY!
>
>
>
> Rambler Mentality ......... ;)
>
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> Garry Nordstrom wrote:
> > you like these cars, just think of what they are made of and how they
> > can be recycled.   As of now, here in the U.S. we do not know what to
> > do with the composite bodies.. Composite materials must be addressed,
> > and I have talked to Saturn, they have no answer, I would much rather
> > have metal
> > Garry-non tree hugger, just practical
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:19 AM
> > Subject: [Amc-list] Saturn SC 2 - 'Regression Therapy' -
> >
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> www.cardomain.com/MakeModel/*Saturn*/SC
> >>
> >>
> >> Check some of these SC 2 Saturn rides -
> >>
> >>
> >> I like these Cars !
> >>
> >>
> >> Got a neighbor with a Silver '02 3dr.
> >> SC 2 in the Condo lot here --
> >>
> >> chin spoiler air intake  for the '02 looks fine
> >> [lose the license plate to a different position]
> >>
> >>
> >> - and I like the Tail light treatment - perfect
> >> for a 'Lo-Wing' treatment.
> >>
> >>
> >> Car has some funkie NASH / AMC overtones to it -
> >> like ..... - *ginchie* moldedness with accents
> >> and a shovel nose Aero thing going on.
> >>
> >>
> >> These may be the best 'undiscovered'
> >> lo-buk / high return fuel efficient
> >> ride - forget the  Prius - and
> >> the body panels won't rust.
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm looking at a 2002 in the near term -
> >> maybe Black, or Red..... Blue would be cool.
> >>
> >>
> >> I love my Black Cherokee 2dr. 5spd -
> >> 'Panzer' crawling over  plow'd me in
> >> snow banks in the parking lot after a
> >> New York Winter storm.
> >>
> >>
> >> However ..............- we're going
> >> to see $4.19 Gal. fuel for awhile
> >> - and -
> >> $4.50 Gal. will be the 'norm' until
> >> we make nice with South America so as to bring
> >> E-85 to the East Coast.
> >>
> >>
> >> To keep 'Streetin an AMC' ?
> >>
> >>
> >> I like sixes, yet...where's
> >> the American V8 sounds that 'made it all happen' -
> >>
> >> now it's 'The Automotive Age of the Dinosaur' -
> >>
> >> they' ain't bellowing on the Main St. tar pits
> >> anymore - ........
> >>
> >> they're selling on Barrett - Jackson for half
> >> a mill !
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> So maybe not that Quaad Cam alloy bling -
> >>
> >> the only one that SOUNDS any good is the
> >> LINCOLN 5.4 with a 4.17" stroke thru duals.
> >>
> >>
> >> AMC V8 motors SOUND good - so maybe a
> >>
> >> 360 built for Torque / Mileage with a 5 spd. stick ?
> >>
> >> Keep the lighter cast 3.44" stroke crank - the $199.00
> >> Forged Rods off eBay - coatings on the bearings / piston
> >> skirts - a set of those Ultra Light Weight Tool Steel
> >> Wrist Pins / Teflon Buttons that Venolia has - the
> >> entire set would weigh about as much as two stock AMC wrist
> >> pins.....need to check for a light flywheel -
> >>
> >>
> >> I ...... remember reading the Cam Catalogs & snickering
> >> at their 'Mile o' More'listings ?
> >>
> >>
> >> I also recall summer evenings &  $0.29.9 Gal. Gasoline at HESS
> >> and a fill up for $7.00......... SUNOCO 260 ?
> >>
> >>
> >> 20 x $4.00 = $80.00 a Tankful ?
> >>
> >>
> >> OK - fess up > who here voted for 'NIXON'  ?
> >>
> >> ..."We Need 'Dick' in The White House"... bumper
> >> stickers on  1969 Merc */Marauders/*
> >> <
> http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=RUC&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=1969+Merc+Marauders&spell=1
> >
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Maybe a TBI on a something 4bbl. intake could
> >> keep cruises & shows a reality - without spending
> >> the Motel 6 cash for Fuel...... mmAn! ........
> >>
> >>
> >> - how quickly things do change !
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >>  milnersXcoupe          |_      |
> >>   "The Heretic"         |/     __-__
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> >>           /  (/~~ )    _____/-__  ~-_       _-\             _________
> >>         /  _-~\\0) ~~~~         ~~-_ \__--~~   `\  ___---~~~        /'
> >>        /_-~                       _-/'          )~/               /'
> >>        (___________/           _-~/'         _-~~/             _-~
> >>     _ ----- _~-_\\\\        _-~ /'      __--~   (_ ______---~~~--_
> >>  _-~         ~-_~\\\\      (   (     -_~          ~-_  |          ~-_
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx>
> >> Subject: [Amc-list] The Hornet can reclaim the garage!
> >> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Message-ID: <001501c79756$a9a2aa20$05de0d82@john1>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill & Joe et al
> >>
> >> Snip
> >> Used Saturns are common in the junkyards
> >> here (and I image so in Phoenix too) so if you do
> >> screw up a body panel while "learning" I think you
> >> could easily find a replacement...cheap (AMC content
> >> again).
> >> Snip
> >>
> >> Thanks for the help, instructions and moral support
> >> I got everything apart this afternoon and purchased
> >> the repair parts and will re-assemble tonight if all
> >> goes well and my back holds out. The parts were
> >> available at the Dealer and cheaper than the same
> >> parts I bought last month for my Town and Country.
> >>
> >> A friend of mine North of here just sold his wrecking
> >> yard last year and basically had the same thing
> >> to say about early Saturns, defined as those which
> >> were NOT re-badged Opals.
> >> Not only are they easily repaired compared to almost
> >> anything of those years due to access designed into
> >> them, how novel, but the chain drive overhead cam
> >> engines last almost forever if you keep oil in them.
> >> He had used Saturns out there that he sold and
> >> financed that had between 300 and 400 thousand
> >> miles on them. Mine was purchased used in 1999
> >> with 56,000 miles on it and is just ready to turn
> >> 100,000 miles. They are really neat cars and easy
> >> to work on. Rear disk brakes replaced in 20 min.
> >> per side from pick up wrenches and jack to putting
> >> them down is only one of many examples.
> >> The sun here does beat the heck out of the plastic
> >> but it is holding up better than any other plastic
> >> components I have seen. Re-do the Black/Gold
> >> flecked paint on it and add some ghost flames
> >> and polish the wheels up good and some interior
> >> work it will be better than new!
> >> I've been saving this car from beating it up and
> >> now that gasoline is over $3.00/gal it is time to
> >> start using something that will get 30 miles/gal+.
> >> But tonight I should be able to put the Hornet back
> >> into the garage.
> >> John.
> >>
> >>
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