"used Tires are big money " Not so much. We still have to pay to have them taken away. Every tire we sell has a disposal surcharge added. Yeah, they get recycled, but nobody's steeling them for the money yet... Kelly On 5/16/07, Brien Tourville <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Well ...YEahh~!........ > > > I hate rust - every car I have / had gets rust from > this NEW YORK weather - even if it isn't WINTER........ > acid rains land here from Ohio coal burners - forest is > 'burnt' looking - my Cherokee has rot in the quarters now - > > > I'm using Rust Killing Paint they use on the North Sea Oil > Derrek Rigs - I HATE rust........ > > that said - > > Saturn's Made in America - Saturn is ....... dunno how much longer > the way things are going - > > all the great Saturn reviews I've read are the pre '03 cars - > people LOVE them........ the '03 and up reviews aren't so great > and the cars look ugly. > > The SC 2 reminds me of those Studebaker 'Turret Top' cars - > '51 ? > > Mine has got to be Black ..... maybe Green if I see one - > saw a Yellow....... eesch... > > Recycling ? > > Yeah - they said the same thing about Tires years ago - > were burning them in pits out in Cali. - > > then - someone found a way to strip out the radial metals > & plys - ground up the rubber & made Sandals 'n such - > they sell....... > > and - they use the ground up tire rubber in Roadway Tarmac - > repaving roads with used tire rubber in the mix - so NOW..... > used Tires are big money ! > > Composite added to something else at some point in time > will solve the problems - always has worked out that way - > just a combination for a new application. > > Everything these days has a cash value - someone will figure > a way to make used Saturn composite panels paay........ > > In the meanwhile - I'll take that weight savings all the way > to my AMC Kammback project.......$$$ I'm not paying hauling > around STEEL panels 'n skins that I'd have to pay $$ to get > fixed after the weather takes its' toll in 2 years sitting > outside in the Condo lot........them Venolia pins cost MONEY! > > > > Rambler Mentality ......... ;) > > > > > ___ > =Bt= /~ ~\ > milnersXcoupe |_ | > "The Heretic" |/ __-__ > \ /~ ~~-_ > ~~ -~~\ ~\ > / | \ > , / / \ > // _ _---~~~ //-_ \ > / (/~~ ) _____/-__ ~-_ _-\ _________ > / _-~\\0) ~~~~ ~~-_ \__--~~ `\ ___---~~~ /' > /_-~ _-/' )~/ /' > (___________/ _-~/' _-~~/ _-~ > _ ----- _~-_\\\\ _-~ /' __--~ (_ ______---~~~--_ > _-~ ~-_~\\\\ ( ( -_~ ~-_ | ~-_ > /~~~~\ \ \~~ ~-_ ~-_ ~\ ~~--__-----_ \ > ; / \ ______-----\ ~-__~-~~~~~~--_ ~~--_ \ . > | | \((*)~~~~~~~~~~| __--~~ ~-_ ) | | > | \ |~|~---------)__--~~ \_____________/ / , > \ ~-----~ / /~ ) \ ~-----~ / > ~-_ _-~ /_______________________________/ `-_ _-~ > ~ ----- ~ ~ ----- ~ > > > > > > > > > Garry Nordstrom wrote: > > you like these cars, just think of what they are made of and how they > > can be recycled. As of now, here in the U.S. we do not know what to > > do with the composite bodies.. Composite materials must be addressed, > > and I have talked to Saturn, they have no answer, I would much rather > > have metal > > Garry-non tree hugger, just practical > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 1:19 AM > > Subject: [Amc-list] Saturn SC 2 - 'Regression Therapy' - > > > > > >> > >> > >> > >> www.cardomain.com/MakeModel/*Saturn*/SC > >> > >> > >> Check some of these SC 2 Saturn rides - > >> > >> > >> I like these Cars ! > >> > >> > >> Got a neighbor with a Silver '02 3dr. > >> SC 2 in the Condo lot here -- > >> > >> chin spoiler air intake for the '02 looks fine > >> [lose the license plate to a different position] > >> > >> > >> - and I like the Tail light treatment - perfect > >> for a 'Lo-Wing' treatment. > >> > >> > >> Car has some funkie NASH / AMC overtones to it - > >> like ..... - *ginchie* moldedness with accents > >> and a shovel nose Aero thing going on. > >> > >> > >> These may be the best 'undiscovered' > >> lo-buk / high return fuel efficient > >> ride - forget the Prius - and > >> the body panels won't rust. > >> > >> > >> I'm looking at a 2002 in the near term - > >> maybe Black, or Red..... Blue would be cool. > >> > >> > >> I love my Black Cherokee 2dr. 5spd - > >> 'Panzer' crawling over plow'd me in > >> snow banks in the parking lot after a > >> New York Winter storm. > >> > >> > >> However ..............- we're going > >> to see $4.19 Gal. fuel for awhile > >> - and - > >> $4.50 Gal. will be the 'norm' until > >> we make nice with South America so as to bring > >> E-85 to the East Coast. > >> > >> > >> To keep 'Streetin an AMC' ? > >> > >> > >> I like sixes, yet...where's > >> the American V8 sounds that 'made it all happen' - > >> > >> now it's 'The Automotive Age of the Dinosaur' - > >> > >> they' ain't bellowing on the Main St. tar pits > >> anymore - ........ > >> > >> they're selling on Barrett - Jackson for half > >> a mill ! > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> So maybe not that Quaad Cam alloy bling - > >> > >> the only one that SOUNDS any good is the > >> LINCOLN 5.4 with a 4.17" stroke thru duals. > >> > >> > >> AMC V8 motors SOUND good - so maybe a > >> > >> 360 built for Torque / Mileage with a 5 spd. stick ? > >> > >> Keep the lighter cast 3.44" stroke crank - the $199.00 > >> Forged Rods off eBay - coatings on the bearings / piston > >> skirts - a set of those Ultra Light Weight Tool Steel > >> Wrist Pins / Teflon Buttons that Venolia has - the > >> entire set would weigh about as much as two stock AMC wrist > >> pins.....need to check for a light flywheel - > >> > >> > >> I ...... remember reading the Cam Catalogs & snickering > >> at their 'Mile o' More'listings ? > >> > >> > >> I also recall summer evenings & $0.29.9 Gal. Gasoline at HESS > >> and a fill up for $7.00......... SUNOCO 260 ? > >> > >> > >> 20 x $4.00 = $80.00 a Tankful ? > >> > >> > >> OK - fess up > who here voted for 'NIXON' ? > >> > >> ..."We Need 'Dick' in The White House"... bumper > >> stickers on 1969 Merc */Marauders/* > >> < > http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=RUC&pwst=1&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=1969+Merc+Marauders&spell=1 > > > >> > >> ? > >> > >> > >> Maybe a TBI on a something 4bbl. intake could > >> keep cruises & shows a reality - without spending > >> the Motel 6 cash for Fuel...... mmAn! ........ > >> > >> > >> - how quickly things do change ! > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> =Bt= /~ ~\ > >> milnersXcoupe |_ | > >> "The Heretic" |/ __-__ > >> \ /~ ~~-_ > >> ~~ -~~\ ~\ > >> / | \ > >> , / / \ > >> // _ _---~~~ //-_ \ > >> / (/~~ ) _____/-__ ~-_ _-\ _________ > >> / _-~\\0) ~~~~ ~~-_ \__--~~ `\ ___---~~~ /' > >> /_-~ _-/' )~/ /' > >> (___________/ _-~/' _-~~/ _-~ > >> _ ----- _~-_\\\\ _-~ /' __--~ (_ ______---~~~--_ > >> _-~ ~-_~\\\\ ( ( -_~ ~-_ | ~-_ > >> /~~~~\ \ \~~ ~-_ ~-_ ~\ ~~--__-----_ \ > >> ; / \ ______-----\ ~-__~-~~~~~~--_ ~~--_ > \ . > >> | | \((*)~~~~~~~~~~| __--~~ ~-_ ) | > | > >> | \ |~|~---------)__--~~ \_____________/ > / , > >> \ ~-----~ / /~ ) \ ~-----~ / > >> ~-_ _-~ /_______________________________/ `-_ _-~ > >> ~ ----- ~ ~ ----- ~ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx> > >> Subject: [Amc-list] The Hornet can reclaim the garage! > >> To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Message-ID: <001501c79756$a9a2aa20$05de0d82@john1> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >> > >> > >> Bill & Joe et al > >> > >> Snip > >> Used Saturns are common in the junkyards > >> here (and I image so in Phoenix too) so if you do > >> screw up a body panel while "learning" I think you > >> could easily find a replacement...cheap (AMC content > >> again). > >> Snip > >> > >> Thanks for the help, instructions and moral support > >> I got everything apart this afternoon and purchased > >> the repair parts and will re-assemble tonight if all > >> goes well and my back holds out. The parts were > >> available at the Dealer and cheaper than the same > >> parts I bought last month for my Town and Country. > >> > >> A friend of mine North of here just sold his wrecking > >> yard last year and basically had the same thing > >> to say about early Saturns, defined as those which > >> were NOT re-badged Opals. > >> Not only are they easily repaired compared to almost > >> anything of those years due to access designed into > >> them, how novel, but the chain drive overhead cam > >> engines last almost forever if you keep oil in them. > >> He had used Saturns out there that he sold and > >> financed that had between 300 and 400 thousand > >> miles on them. Mine was purchased used in 1999 > >> with 56,000 miles on it and is just ready to turn > >> 100,000 miles. They are really neat cars and easy > >> to work on. Rear disk brakes replaced in 20 min. > >> per side from pick up wrenches and jack to putting > >> them down is only one of many examples. > >> The sun here does beat the heck out of the plastic > >> but it is holding up better than any other plastic > >> components I have seen. Re-do the Black/Gold > >> flecked paint on it and add some ghost flames > >> and polish the wheels up good and some interior > >> work it will be better than new! > >> I've been saving this car from beating it up and > >> now that gasoline is over $3.00/gal it is time to > >> start using something that will get 30 miles/gal+. > >> But tonight I should be able to put the Hornet back > >> into the garage. > >> John. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: > >> > http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20070516/37d35761/attachment.htm > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Amc-list mailing list > >> Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > >> http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > >> > > > > > > > -- > > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > http://www.amc-list.com/pipermail/amc-list/attachments/20070516/3d401170/attachment.htm > _______________________________________________ > Amc-list mailing list > Amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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