Send AMC-List mailing list submissions to amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to amc-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at amc-list-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of AMC-List digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: God Bless The Dremil Tool (Mr. AMC) 2. AMC Diecast At Last (Mr. AMC) 3. PARTS CARS in Virginia -- 2 Ambassadors, 3 Gremlins, 3 Matadors (Archimedes) 4. Re: [AMC-List] http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM) 5. AMC Diecast At Last (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM) 6. Re: Lambo doors... (Keleigh Hardie) 7. Re: Fw: Brake light proporitoning valve question (Wayne E LaMothe) 8. Re; http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html (John Elle) 9. Re: Brake light proporitoning valve question (Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM) 10. Re: Re; http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html (Mark Price) 11. Re: [AMC-List] http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html (namdra@xxxxxxxx) 12. Re: [AMC-List] http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html (Widiker, John D) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:15:55 -0500 From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] God Bless The Dremil Tool To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <25102-45A3877B-5531@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII I have a small Sears battery Dremel tool and a regular 110 volt one. They are indispensable tools to have. I use them for everything from model cars to my real cars and house hold projects too. "Doc" ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:24:02 -0500 From: AMC74Hornet@xxxxxxxxx (Mr. AMC) Subject: [AMC-List] AMC Diecast At Last To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <23516-45A38962-5237@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII By the looks of the picture the Machine looks nice. And it is not going for 100$ plus like some of those Franklin Mint ones. The Fresh Cherries 1/25 scale Gremlin was a decent one for around 12$ I think. I pre-ordered 6 of the Machines. Now I will have a 1/18 scale to go with the plastic 1/25 scale one I am building and the 1/87 JL one I have. "Doc" ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 13:15:08 -0500 From: Archimedes <Freedom@xxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] PARTS CARS in Virginia -- 2 Ambassadors, 3 Gremlins, 3 Matadors To: (Recipient list suppressed) Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.1.20070108130428.019db4b8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hey Guys, Check out this trove of parts cars: http://users.nexet.net/rhosco/amccars.htm 1973 Gremlin 232, 3-spd, Levis edition 1973 Gremlin 232, AT 1973 Gremlin 232, AT, PS, A/C 1978 Matador 304, AT, roof rotted out 1977 Matador V8, AT 1971 Ambassador 360, AT, 1971 Ambassador (no photo) Unknown year Matador 304, AT The contact for these cars is Scott, his phones are on the photo page and his email is: "S&R" <rhosco@xxxxxxxxxxx> If any of you need any parts off of these cars, if you're willing to pay the cost of buying the car and getting it to my place, I'm willing to cut pieces off for you if I get what's left. You will need to arrange for pickup of any parts. I will package and ship but as I don't run a shipping facility, it's an extreme hassle for me and I will need to charge for my time. I see good body panels, good doors, glass, and probably reams of mechanical parts. They are not long for this earth, so if you want anything from them, contact the fellow at the phone number on the main page and make your arrangements. -- Marc Montoni 804-288-2766 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:20:11 -0600 From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4CC05BF0CC3F114281434B00B733E2A31FD86F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" An SC/Rambler is very practical for drag strip duties. A bit lighter than a Javelin, and a little more of a surprise at the end for your opponent. It just needs a nice single color paint job, not that flashy R/W/B scheme, for better effect. Might have to get a smaller scoop too... ;> Seriously, I just don't like the look of those lambo style doors on otherwise close to stock appearing vehicles, unless they are low and sleek (kind of like the lambo). I don't think they'd look to good on a stock appearing Javelin either. A custom javelin with a lower roof, maybe. The "Matador X-press" that was in the first issue of AIM might look good with them. I think that type door is more for a radical custom than anything. I believe the kits from carbodyparts is a universal type -- no Ramblers shown in the pics. Date: Monday, January 8, 2007 06:39 PM From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx> Yeah, Frank, why pick on the Javelins. And I imagine a 69 SC/Rambler is a practical car!! On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:28:48 -0800 (PST) Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> writes: > On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM wrote: > > > I never have cared for the lambo/scissor/whatever doors. Lots of > flash, > > no practicality. Admit it -- a Rambler is a practical car, > > > no place for such nonsense! Leave it for the Javelins... > > OH BOY! FRANK'S IN FOR IT NOW!! :-) ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:27:42 -0600 From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] AMC Diecast At Last To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <4CC05BF0CC3F114281434B00B733E2A31FD87D@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I'll be preordering one of each myself! The solid color with black hood looks really good. I usually don't go for the "one of every color" collection, but in this case the paint schemes are so different that I will. I have a couple others like that, but most of the different color dupes I have are mistakes... forgot I already had one. Some just look better in another color though. I have a yellow Fresh Cherries Pacer with silver trim on the side, but when I saw one with black trim on the side decided that it looked much better (at least in small scale), so I bought it. I've been looking for a BBO Javelin and AMX!! If anyone has a spare they can sell me (without gouging like the E-bay guys) let me know! The Wal-Warts here hardly carry anything. Checked other stores -- nothing! ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:29:35 -0700 From: Keleigh Hardie <keleigh3000@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Lambo doors... To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <45A398BF.5020705@xxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed I dunno, if you'd ever had to get out of a Matador coupe in a tight parking space, you'd see the practical value.. Keleigh PS. "Complete kit comes with all hardware including car lovers now converting both front and rear doors." Huh? > Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 07:24:57 -0600 > From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" > <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [AMC-List] > http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html > To: <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Message-ID: > <4CC05BF0CC3F114281434B00B733E2A31FD386@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I don't think so!! Suicide rears MIGHT be nice, but wouldn't look good > on a 63-66 Classic -- not enough vertical door over the wheel well. > Maybe a 50s Nash if I get one for a limo... > > I never have cared for the lambo/scissor/whatever doors. Lots of flash, > no practicality. Admit it -- a Rambler is a practical car, no place for > such nonsense! Leave it for the Javelins... > > ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 11:04:54 -0500 From: Wayne E LaMothe <superglider@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Fw: Brake light proporitoning valve question To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx, eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20070109.110543.2768.3.superglider@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii See Evil Bay 7996777924. I just bought one and have yet to install it but it looks like it will work just fine. Wayne Wayne & Lisa (Skeezix), Bolton Landing, NY, http://www.superglider.thinkhost.com/ AMO#8454, 83 Eagle Limited Wagon, 82 SX/4, 258 auto 69 Ambo coupe, 401, M12, 66 Ambo 990 Wagon, 327,PW,PB,PS,posi,AM/FM,AC 88 Jeep J10 360, auto- a Real truck 2001 Cherokee, 2000 Chrysler Cirrus (both hers) On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 17:21:20 -0600 "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > Artie has a problem with his brake light on the SC/Rambler staying > on. Anyone with any advise feel free to comment especially any place > that mgiht rebuild the proporting valve, thanks in advance to all > who may reply. > Eddie Stakes' > Planet Houston AMX > 713.464.8825 > eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > www.planethoustonamx.com > Email is currently HEAVY > 5-12 day reply times, call if important > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A.F schurst@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:05 AM > Subject: Brake light > > > Hello , > I have a SC/Rambler and the brake light is constantly on ( I > know I could unplug it-or tape over the light) . Do you have or know > where I could get a brake proportional valve or can they be opened > and repaired. I recalled reading something about a repair kit. The > brakes do feel a little biased to the front. Any help would be > great. Keep up the humor, I had people at work crying over that > Black beauty AMX partout on Ebay. > Thanks Artie Foley > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com > > ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:08:37 -0700 From: "John Elle" <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Re; http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html To: <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <000201c73410$ce13e580$e4dc0d82@john1> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" If you think about it a little more Snip I don't think so!! Suicide rears MIGHT be nice, Snip This is a real deal, after all if it fits an Eagle, it should fit a Concord, Spirit Gremlin or Hornet with out a problems and for the insignificant sum of only $1600 you would certainly have a distinctive ride and be "VISABLE". I mean of course this is chump change when compared to http://www.martzchassis.net/page4.htm $2500.00 for a complete turnkey Mustang II derived front clip to up date the antiquated front end on said Rambler or Javelin or what ever and it is still cheaper than the; http://www.martzchassis.net/page7.htm 9" Detroit Locker Rear, correct width $1880.00 which could be used to eliminate the torque tube drive on a 65 AMBO, neither of which could be seen unless you crawled around on the ground trying to peer up into the undercarriage. Think of the Bling Factor! But for many of us, Rambler Mentality Rules (RMR) John ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:21:54 -0600 From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Brake light proporitoning valve question To: <schurst@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <4CC05BF0CC3F114281434B00B733E2A31FDA30@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Artie, did you bleed the brakes recently? If not, do you have a leak in the brake system? The brake valve has a pressure differential switch in it. If the pressure on one side of the switch (front or rear brakes) drops the switch slides over and turns the light on. Bleeding the brakes will "trip" the switch. I know a lot of people will call this a "proportioning valve" or a "combination (combo) valve". Pre 71 AMCs used the same junction block and switch as drum brakes (pre 66 don't have a brake light switch at all). If it came with disc brakes there is a separate proportioning valve near the rear axle in the line (67-70 -- 65 and 66 models used a lower stopping power non-servo rear drum brake assembly instead). Sometimes people forget that things used to be done differently! Of course your car could have been upgraded to a later system. The pin is on those as well. You can find the procedure outlined in the 73 TSM on-line at http://www.tocmp.com/tOCMP/chassis/amc%20site%203/indexold.html. If yours has the original, follow the instructions for drum brakes. If a newer model combo valve, for disc brakes. Basically, you need to remove the plunger in the center (drum/early disc), step on the brake pedal hard, then reinstall the plunger. It should center and turn the brake light off unless there's a problem with the brakes and pressure isn't equal on both sides. It won't leak from the switch hole unless the switch is bad. The newer type combo valve will reset itself, and the switch doesn't need to come out for bleeding. The manual refers to a "metering function". Unless you have the type combo valve with metering (mostly 71-78 big cars), ignore it. A combo valve with metering will have a line to each front wheel from the valve. Those without (the most common) have a T in the line from the master to the valve for the left front wheel with the right wheel only connected to the valve. Metering prevents pressure from going to the front brakes until enough pressure has built up to overcome the springs in the rear drum brakes (~100 psi). This way all four brakes engage at the same time. Early small cars (71-~75) used metering in the combo valve, later ones don't. Few modern cars use the metering function in their combo valves. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: A.F schurst@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > To: eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2006 11:05 AM > Subject: Brake light > > > Hello , > I have a SC/Rambler and the brake light is constantly on ( I > know I could unplug it-or tape over the light) . Do you have or know > where I could get a brake proportional valve or can they be opened > and repaired. I recalled reading something about a repair kit. The > brakes do feel a little biased to the front. Any help would be > great. Keep up the humor, I had people at work crying over that > Black beauty AMX partout on Ebay. > Thanks Artie Foley ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 10:24:20 -0800 From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Re; http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: John Elle <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <22728730.1168367060710.JavaMail.root@web13> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Gee, this place is only about 60 miles from me and a stone throw from my mother-in-laws house! I wonder if they would use my Ambassador or American to build some AMC jigs and suspension pieces! Tempting, very tempting! -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ---- John Elle <johnelle@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > If you think about it a little more > > Snip > I don't think so!! Suicide rears MIGHT be nice, > Snip > > This is a real deal, after all if it fits an Eagle, it should fit a > Concord, Spirit Gremlin or Hornet with out a problems and for the > insignificant sum of only $1600 you would certainly have a distinctive > ride and be "VISABLE". I mean of course this is chump change when > compared to > > http://www.martzchassis.net/page4.htm > > $2500.00 for a complete turnkey Mustang II derived front clip to up date > the antiquated front end on said Rambler or Javelin or what ever and it > is still cheaper than the; > > http://www.martzchassis.net/page7.htm > > 9" Detroit Locker Rear, correct width $1880.00 which could be used to > eliminate the torque tube drive on a 65 AMBO, neither of which could be > seen unless you crawled around on the ground trying to peer up into the > undercarriage. > > Think of the Bling Factor! > > But for many of us, Rambler Mentality Rules (RMR) > > John > > > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 12:38:58 -0600 From: namdra@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <20070109.123859.-16596595.0.NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Frank & all, I checked out this website that sells lambo style doors but noticed that they show with the doors. And what I got a real kick out of is that they sell an oxygen sensor for my 304 powered 70 Ambassador . Yeah, right! On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:20:11 -0600 "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > An SC/Rambler is very practical for drag strip duties. A bit lighter > than a Javelin, and a little more of a surprise at the end for your > opponent. It just needs a nice single color paint job, not that > flashy > R/W/B scheme, for better effect. Might have to get a smaller scoop > too... ;> > > Seriously, I just don't like the look of those lambo style doors on > otherwise close to stock appearing vehicles, unless they are low > and > sleek (kind of like the lambo). I don't think they'd look to good on > a > stock appearing Javelin either. A custom javelin with a lower roof, > maybe. The "Matador X-press" that was in the first issue of AIM > might > look good with them. I think that type door is more for a radical > custom > than anything. I believe the kits from carbodyparts is a universal > type > -- no Ramblers shown in the pics. > > > Date: Monday, January 8, 2007 06:39 PM > From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx> > > Yeah, Frank, why pick on the Javelins. And I imagine a 69 SC/Rambler > is > a > practical car!! > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:28:48 -0800 (PST) Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> > writes: > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM wrote: > > > > > I never have cared for the lambo/scissor/whatever doors. Lots > of > > flash, > > > no practicality. Admit it -- a Rambler is a practical car, > > > > > no place for such nonsense! Leave it for the Javelins... > > > > OH BOY! FRANK'S IN FOR IT NOW!! :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com > > Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326 JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!! '07 AMC NATIONALS - Sep. 6-8, 2007 - Cordova Dragway Park, Cordova, IL AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766 ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 13:46:05 -0500 From: "Widiker, John D" <john.widiker@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html To: <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <053E34168692C4438533FE33E79C1A18439153@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Just imagine... That oxygen sensor in the Ambo has probably never been changed! Your mileage might skyrocket! ~J -----Original Message----- From: amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx [mailto:amc-list-bounces@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of namdra@xxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:39 PM To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List]http://www.carbodyparts.net/american_motors-body_kits.html Frank & all, I checked out this website that sells lambo style doors but noticed that they show with the doors. And what I got a real kick out of is that they sell an oxygen sensor for my 304 powered 70 Ambassador . Yeah, right! On Tue, 9 Jan 2007 07:20:11 -0600 "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > An SC/Rambler is very practical for drag strip duties. A bit lighter > than a Javelin, and a little more of a surprise at the end for your > opponent. It just needs a nice single color paint job, not that flashy > R/W/B scheme, for better effect. Might have to get a smaller scoop > too... ;> > > Seriously, I just don't like the look of those lambo style doors on > otherwise close to stock appearing vehicles, unless they are low and > sleek (kind of like the lambo). I don't think they'd look to good on a > stock appearing Javelin either. A custom javelin with a lower roof, > maybe. The "Matador X-press" that was in the first issue of AIM might > look good with them. I think that type door is more for a radical > custom than anything. I believe the kits from carbodyparts is a > universal type > -- no Ramblers shown in the pics. > > > Date: Monday, January 8, 2007 06:39 PM > From: Jock J Jocewicz <namdra@xxxxxxxx> > > Yeah, Frank, why pick on the Javelins. And I imagine a 69 SC/Rambler > is a practical car!! > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2007 13:28:48 -0800 (PST) Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> > writes: > > On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM wrote: > > > > > I never have cared for the lambo/scissor/whatever doors. Lots > of > > flash, > > > no practicality. Admit it -- a Rambler is a practical car, > > > > > no place for such nonsense! Leave it for the Javelins... > > > > OH BOY! FRANK'S IN FOR IT NOW!! :-) > > > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com > > Jock Jocewicz - President/Editor NAMDRA NAMDRA@xxxxxxxx 8537 Antioch Rd., Salem, WI 53168 (262) 843-4326 JOIN NAMDRA, the best AMC club around!! '07 AMC NATIONALS - Sep. 6-8, 2007 - Cordova Dragway Park, Cordova, IL AMO#19, NAMDRA#46, AMCRC#974, NHRA#41915, IHRA#6766 _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list End of AMC-List Digest, Vol 12, Issue 15 ****************************************