" From: "Swygert, Francis G MSgt 436 CES/CECM" <Francis.Swygert3@xxxxxxxxxxxx> " " " Almost all manufacturers had some sort of semi-auto trans where you only " had to use the clutch to come to a complete stop and to start. Once GM " introduced the Hydramatic in the late 30s (I seem to recall 38?) they that sounds about right. " had to! GM didn't start selling Hydros to others until 1950. Then Nash " was the first to make a deal, trading use of their "Weather Eye" " filtration system for rights to buy the Hydro. A year or two later GM " was selling Hydros to others as well. and putting them in unexpected places, like the m135 korean-war army trucks, behind the 302-inch six - the other 'jimmy' beloved of early hot rodders. how about a deuce-and-a-half with a wayne head and fenton headers? but i've always heard the gmcs were crap compared to the reo-studebaker-kaiser-amgeneral m35/m44; they actually lost the army drive-off but were made anyway because of korea. not long after that the factory was totally destroyed in a fire, and then the race was on... everyone rushed to develop their own auto. the iron warner / fmx was probably the last of the 1st-gen, surviving until '80 in fords. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com