The E-stick was available from 1961-63 in Americans and Classics, 196 L-head or OHV (but not the aluminum engine because of the different oil pump, I think). Basically it was a cheaper alternative to an auto that got better mileage. At least until engine oil pressure started to go or you were in a hilly area. Both would wear on the clutch, as would jack-rabbit starts. I recall reading that some company bought a bunch to use as in-town delivery vehicles, but were replacing clutches once a year (20K or so) because of all the starts/stops/driving like it's not yours. Almost all manufacturers had some sort of semi-auto trans where you only had to use the clutch to come to a complete stop and to start. Once GM introduced the Hydramatic in the late 30s (I seem to recall 38?) they had to! GM didn't start selling Hydros to others until 1950. Then Nash was the first to make a deal, trading use of their "Weather Eye" filtration system for rights to buy the Hydro. A year or two later GM was selling Hydros to others as well. I'd like to do the cruise and swap thing! I imagine a few people would be interested in the ride and handling of my Jag rear axle car w/rack and pinion, semi-auto trans, and 4.6L stroker even though it's nothing exotic. The big problem I'd have is it's reliable, but still has a few things that need to be fixed. Noise in the rear end due to the used gears I have and worn side bearings (something I should have replaced when I replaced all seals, but they looked good...). I also have a vibration at speed. I think it might be the bearings, at least contributing to it. But the 67-78 big cars had a vibration damper mounted on the driveshaft hump roughly in the center of the car. I think I'm going to get one of those and try it. I've checked all the universal joints (all six!) and have nothing loose, and the driveshaft angle is within a degree or two. Just minor irritants, nothing that's kept me from driving the last four years!! _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com