MODERN MOTOR CAR (May 1950) says that the new 1950 Rambler weighed approximately 2400 lbs. I assume they got that number from Nash propaganda (doesn't say). My 1970 Hornet (1970 American) weighs about 3000 lbs. I will drive it to the truck scale one of these months. The 1973 Hornet ("american") weighs 3200 lbs; crash bars in the doors, floor? bracing, other Fed safety stuff. Just how different is the 1958 Rambler ("American") from the 1950? Motor is the newer flathead, probably about the same weight. Maybe the hard roof allowed removin bracing needed in the 1950 (though seeing how we're talking about 1950, it probably just flexed). The American got longer and longer, so that accounts for some of it. But where's all the weight? Anyone have a breakdown of actual (not ICC shipping tariff) weights of AMCs in the 1960's? Check out this interesting page ... http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=1991 (And WOAH! check out that cool sculpture! Pretty much sums up what I think modern cars are trying to look like, Porshe to Hyundai). ... says "But, in 2001 (the last year where I could find applicable data), safety equipment accounted for only 125 lbs. of an average vehicles total weight. Its risen since then, but even if you double this figure its still a far cry from the over 900 lbs. increase over the past 19 years." ... "Just ten years ago, sunroofs, automatic climate control and sat nav systems were restricted to luxury cars. Today, all these toys are available in the most basic econobox, and a “necessity” in any car with upmarket pretensions. Extra goodies, extra weight. No wonder the two-door Honda Civic has porked-up nearly 400 pounds over the past 10 years." I bet the writer is over 50... :-) _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list or go to http://www.amc-list.com