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Re: What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! (Tom Jennings) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:57:56 -0600 From: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix To: "Mark Price" <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: baadassGremlins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <00ca01c722dc$053d2030$abf1b148@piageedc1iqa5q> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original They got a LOT of neat stuff us AMCers El Norte didn't get! http://www.planethoustonamx.com/press_photos/74_VAM_Gremlin.JPG check out the Hurst shifter and Navajo interior! And Hornet front clip! Yee! Me want! Would like a 1979 "concord Rallye AMX" also! http://www.arcticboy.com/Pages/arcticboysvam.html Check out the American wagon with Gremlin front clip, really neat, too bad not offered in US. And the Rallye AMX 1983 is great looking, too bad was not issued in the US!! Eddie Stakes' Planet Houston AMX 713.464.8825 eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.planethoustonamx.com Email is currently HEAVY 5-12 day reply times, call if important ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Price" <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Eddie Stakes" <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 18, 2006 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Mexican VAM 1981 Rally GT pix > Now, why do you suppose VAM could come up with such a nice looking seat > and we got stuck with almost flat buckets???!!!! > -- > Mark Price > markprice242ATadelphia.net > Morgantown, WV > > > ---- Eddie Stakes <eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Mauriecio sent me these from Guadajara Mexico of his new 1981 Rally GT. >> Someone save these photos for furute reference as the host, photobucket, >> usually dumps them after only a certain amount of time! So if someone >> wants >> to save these for future reference, please do before they are gone. I >> have >> not heard from Mauricio for awhile. This is a VAM 1981 Spirit Rally GT, >> rather rare little car and you will notice a number of things on it that >> didn't appear in the US Spirits (at least that I know of). >> Have fun, >> Eddie Stakes >> >> EXTERIOR >> >> Rear: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_01.jpg >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_02.jpg >> >> Rear Passenger Side: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_03.jpg >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_04.jpg >> >> Passenger Side: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_05.jpg >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_06.jpg >> >> Front Passenger Side: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_07.jpg >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_08.jpg >> >> Front: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_09.jpg >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_10.jpg >> >> Driver Side Front: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_11.jpg >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_12.jpg >> >> Driver Side: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_13.jpg >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_14.jpg >> >> Driver Side Rear: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_15.jpg >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_16.jpg >> >> Passenger Side Front Wheel: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_17.jpg >> >> Driver Side Front Wheel: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_18.jpg >> >> Passenger Side Rear Wheel: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_19.jpg >> >> Driver Side Rear Wheel: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_20.jpg >> >> >> INTERIOR >> >> Passenger Door: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_21.jpg >> >> Driver Door: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_22.jpg >> >> Passenger Interior View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_23.jpg >> >> Driver Interior View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_24.jpg >> >> Passenger Full Dashboard View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_25.jpg >> >> Driver Full Dashboard View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_26.jpg >> >> Driver Portion Dashboard View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_27.jpg >> >> Center Portion Dashboard View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_28.jpg >> >> Passenger Portion Dashboard View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_29.jpg >> >> Rear Seat Passenger View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_30.jpg >> >> Rear Seat Driver View: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_31.jpg >> >> Passenger Seat: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_32.jpg >> >> Driver Seat: >> >> http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y243/rallygt/Rally_GT_1981_33.jpg >> Eddie Stakes' >> Planet Houston AMX >> 713.464.8825 >> eddiestakes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> www.planethoustonamx.com >> Email is currently HEAVY >> 5-12 day reply times, call if important >> >> _______________________________________________ >> AMC-List mailing list >> AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list >> >> or go to http://www.amc-list.com > > ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:09:36 -0500 From: Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Metropolitan Swap To: AMC List <amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <00b501c722f9$960f1380$6400a8c0@DONS> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 >>>" To keep it somewhat on topic, would this swap into a Metropolitan???!!!!<<< >>>with enough money anything's possible... i'd sooner go for a mgb 1.8 swap myself.<<< ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If you're gonna swap another engine into the Met, why pick the only engine out there that's probably more intiquated than the original. The MGB is a pushrod engine, with electrics by Lucas (the prince of darkness) that is reliable if it doesn't rain within 200 miles. There are a bunch of DOHC 4 bangers out there that bolt right up to 5 speeds and would move that Met down the road smartly. Get something with a carb so you don't have to change the fuel system and wire in a computer. Cheapest thing I can think of is a Fiat 1.8 DOHC with the Weber carb and 5 speed tranny. Probably pick up everything you need for $500. Don ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:36:43 -0800 From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Metropolitan Swap To: Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <27697344.1166488603232.JavaMail.root@web24> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I wasn't really serious about the Met swap. I just wanted to stick something in there AMC related! Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ---- Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>" To keep it somewhat on topic, would this swap into a Metropolitan???!!!!<<< > > >>>with enough money anything's possible... i'd sooner go for a mgb 1.8 > swap myself.<<< > ________________________________________________________________________ > Andrew Hay the genius nature > internet rambler is to see what all have seen > adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > If you're gonna swap another engine into the Met, why pick the only engine out there that's probably more intiquated than the original. > The MGB is a pushrod engine, with electrics by Lucas (the prince of darkness) that is reliable if it doesn't rain within 200 miles. > There are a bunch of DOHC 4 bangers out there that bolt right up to 5 speeds and would move that Met down the road smartly. > Get something with a carb so you don't have to change the fuel system and wire in a computer. > Cheapest thing I can think of is a Fiat 1.8 DOHC with the Weber carb and 5 speed tranny. Probably pick up everything you need for $500. > Don > _______________________________________________ > AMC-List mailing list > AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx > http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list > > or go to http://www.amc-list.com ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:58:25 -0800 From: Mark Price <markprice242@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] My leds To: AMC List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: "AMC-DelMarVA: yahoogroups.com" <AMC-DelMarVA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <20419316.1166489905359.JavaMail.root@web24> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Picked up 10, 10mm blue leds for my dash light conversion. My plan is to graft these prewired and resistorized into the Autometer gauges 194 bulb sockets. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3874488789 I was going to just buy some 10mm leds and do the resistors and such myself, but doing the math and the soldering seemed to much like work, Anyway I'm anxious to see how this works out. I noticed they are fairly tight angle leds so I plan on scuffing one with 150-180 grit sandpaper to diffuse it then check it's pattern to see if it helps. I only need 6 for the gauges. Buying 10 allows me some matched spares and I'll be able to experiment with the finish if needed. My last remaining issue is indicator lights. I'd like to do a panel with 5 leds, 2 turn, 1 oil, 1 check engine, 1 high beam. I'm at a loss for where to mount said panel and where to source it from? The only ones I've found online are fairly ugly and only cover turn signals and high beam applications! Anyone out there want to make up a nice little aluminum billet piece to hold 5 leds in 3mm or 5mm diameter?!!! I'm guessing I'm going to be on my own on this one. I'll have to start by finding a small chunk of aluminum and drill and whittle away! -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:18:06 +0000 From: farna@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] 1975 -6 Hornet/Gremlin MC Specs To: johnnykazek@xxxxxxxxxxx, mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List) Message-ID: <121920060118.4869.45873DCD000D915B0000130521603760210E029D0E00@xxxxxxx> All I can remember is that they are standard tubing size. I know that doesn't help much! The more important thing is what sizes are on the 60. You should have a single junction block with five positions, or one with four and another T. The five positions are one IN from MC, two OUT to the front brakes, one OUT to the rear brakes, and the fith OUT to the pressure brake light switch. The switch might be in a T in one of the lines, most likely the between the MC and junction block. There is no brake failure switch or light, that didn't come out until 1967. You can add one easy enough if you wanted, just use the junction block from a 67 or later car (or a combo valve) and find somewhere to put the light on the dash. You will need to replumb the lines from the junction block back to the MC. All you really need is two Ts -- on for the front brakes, one for the back. Put the pressure switch in the T going to the back brakes. You will have new lines from the T to the MC. Adapters for standard brake line sizes should be readily available. The line to the back is 1/4", the front line might be 1/4", but if you have a disc brake MC and are using disc brakes from a later model, it's more likely to be 5/16" to the T then 1/4" to each wheel. You should be able to get a T with a 5/16" fitting in the center and two 1/4" fittings, might be called a "trailer T" or "brake T". It's been a while since I had to do a lot of adapting! You might need to go to a NAPA or local parts store that caters to racers to find the adapters, but the more common ones are carried by most stores on the racks. You should be able to find everything you need since you're using a new model MC. Some of the older ones, like the ! 62-64 ( maybe later) original dual MCs AMC used, have odd size fittings. Those old dual MCs have a large flare nut (about 3/8") with a small 1/4" line in it for the front to prevent crossing the lines. I adapted a few, but have since taken to removing the line back a the junction block and bending a new line. Fewer adapters (if any) that way! -------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 16:18:17 +0000 From: "johnny kazek" <johnnykazek@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] 1975 -6 Hornet/Gremlin MC Specs Wondering if anyone who has this type of Master Cylinder might be able to tell me the size tubing out of the reservoirs. I'm converting to this MC on my 60 Rambler Wagon (from single reservoir), part won't be here for a week, so I'm trying to get the lines run and in place so I can drop it in. Thanks for your help- Johnny -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html (free download available!) ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 01:27:28 +0000 From: farna@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! To: tomj@xxxxxxx, mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx (AMC-List) Message-ID: <121920060127.13898.45873FFF000BAFF10000364A21603760210E029D0E00@xxxxxxx> Tom, that would be APU (auxilliary power unit). They are used in aircraft (including larger helicopters) to provide starting power and ground power in remote locations or for short periods. I've seen a few. They produce hp at very high rpm as Andrew pointed out -- no useable torque, and a very narrow power band. I think his electric idea has merit, but I think you'd still need a battery to control the power between the gen and motor -- or a very large variable resistance to dump excess power! On second thought, there should be an electrical way to vary generator output without varying engine speed much... multiple tap generator (I'm thinking something similar to a multi-tap transformer, like an old welder my brother has...)? Okay, I'm showing my limited knowledge of electrical stuff!! That's your area Tom!! Andrew, the Tapco ad says it's an industrial engine. Might have been made for a fork lift or something -- could be anything! Might be strong enough for a Metro given advances in engine technology -- the originals were 1200cc and later 1500cc. So it should be equal to the 1500 given the technology span, but I doubt it would be much of an upgrade except for reliability and parts availability... maybe on the parts since it's an industrial engine. ---------------- I just (weeks ago) looked at, and drooled on, a military surplus power unit (GPU?) that's a multi-10KW electrical generator driven by a very small jet engine. The WHOLE THING is a fat suitcase, sat 32" x 32" x 24". Including the jet engine, gearbox, generator! Apparently they're around 100hp. Someone I was with stuffed the motor from one into a motorcycle. Suuure would be a nice fit in a bathtub rambler! 100hp ain't much, but it's 15% more than stock, and the damn thing would run on kerosene. -- Frank Swygert Publisher, "American Motors Cars" Magazine (AMC) For all AMC enthusiasts http://farna.home.att.net/AIM.html (free download available!) ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:46:36 -0500 From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] VAM Rally GT pix To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <45870C3C.31402.8881F70@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Now, why do you suppose VAM could come up with such a nice looking seat and we got stuck with almost flat buckets???!!!! -- Mark Price markprice242ATadelphia.net Morgantown, WV <> I totally agree - they look like something in the new GTO - only a quarter century before their release ! But the Door Panel Chrome is as lame as it gets ! { those injectors arrived Mark - look pretty good ! - installing this coming weekend } =Bt= milnersXcoupe "The Heretic" ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:47:56 -0500 (EST) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <200612190247.kBJ2luC26230@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> " From: farna@xxxxxxx " " Tom, that would be APU (auxilliary power unit). They are used in " aircraft (including larger helicopters) to provide starting power " and ground power in remote locations or for short periods. I've seen " a few. They produce hp at very high rpm as Andrew pointed out -- no " useable torque, and a very narrow power band. I think his electric " idea has merit, but I think you'd still need a battery to control " the power between the gen and motor -- or a very large variable " resistance to dump excess power! On second thought, there should be " an electrical way to vary generator output without varying engine " speed much... multiple tap generator (I'm thinking something similar " to a multi-tap transformer, like an old welder my brother has...)? " Okay, I'm showing my limited knowledge of electrical stuff!! That's " your area Tom!! i'd use an scr bridge to rectify the alt, then more power semis to drive 3-phase motors. the scr duty cycle would be controlled by turbo rpm, so that electrical output climbs when you crack the throttle. you can make the power curve as flat as you like by adjusting the control circuit sensitivity. power ac drives are routine these days too; multi-thousand-hp locomotives use them... " Andrew, the Tapco ad says it's an industrial engine. Might have been " made for a fork lift or something -- could be anything! Might be " strong enough for a Metro given advances in engine technology -- the " originals were 1200cc and later 1500cc. So it should be equal to the " 1500 given the technology span, but I doubt it would be much of an " upgrade except for reliability and parts availability... maybe on " the parts since it's an industrial engine. many auto engines are also used as industrials. the continental 226 was widely used in compressor and welder trailers as well as forklifts and tractors, and parts for it are still widely available. i sometimes think it was an industrial engine first and an auto engine second. the ford model a engine lasted into the '60s at least i think, as an industrial powerplant, though by that time it had gained 5 mains and pressure lube [the 'model c']. marine is another auto alternative. if you want to dieselize your jeep cherokee or wrangler, volvo has an excellent engine used with the same japanese automatic in european models but not sold in cars here. but it is available from volvo marine. my gist is that cars are the volume driver. the tapco engine is set up for industrial applications but it probably has its roots under something's hood. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:52:20 -0500 (EST) From: adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Sandwich Maker) Subject: Re: [AMC-List] Metropolitan Swap To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <200612190252.kBJ2qK026292@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> " From: Don Johnson <donjohnson@xxxxxxxxxxxx> " " >>>" To keep it somewhat on topic, would this swap into a Metropolitan???!!!!<<< " " >>>with enough money anything's possible... i'd sooner go for a mgb 1.8 " swap myself.<<< " ________________________________________________________________________ " Andrew Hay the genius nature " internet rambler is to see what all have seen " adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought " +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ " " If you're gonna swap another engine into the Met, why pick the only engine out there that's probably more antiquated than the original. " The MGB is a pushrod engine, with electrics by Lucas (the prince of darkness) that is reliable if it doesn't rain within 200 miles. the mgb engine is in fact not older than the met's but an evolution of it. it has 5 mains for one thing, instead of 3. i've heard that the cure for lucas electrics is bendix replacement parts, more reliable than the originals. " There are a bunch of DOHC 4 bangers out there that bolt right up to 5 speeds and would move that Met down the road smartly. " Get something with a carb so you don't have to change the fuel system and wire in a computer. " Cheapest thing I can think of is a Fiat 1.8 DOHC with the Weber carb and 5 speed tranny. Probably pick up everything you need for $500. fiats aren't known for reliability either... [fix it again, tony] i'll grand the 1.8 is on the better end. ________________________________________________________________________ Andrew Hay the genius nature internet rambler is to see what all have seen adh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx and think what none thought ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 21:55:55 -0500 From: "Brien Tourville" <hh7x@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] Eagle Kammback Ltd. ? To: mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <45870E6B.10720.890A6E4@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII My Kammback came as a DL - I have never seen or heard of a Kammback Ltd. - but since the Eagle line carried the Ltd. package - has anyone ever heard or seen one ? Did the Spirit line come with an Ltd. package ? Did the SX / 4 Ltd. have the wood grain panels on the doors - or is that only seen in the 2dr. - 4dr. - Wagon Ltd. 'Senior' vehicles ? [ yes, thinking of adding the wood grained door panels and power windows at the moment - part of my 'Winter AMC 'Phunk' mulling yearly process..... ] =Bt= milnersXcoupe "The Heretic" ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:56:35 -0600 From: Teamamc <Teamamc@xxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [AMC-List] My Son's AMX made car craft. To: amc-list@xxxxxxxxxxxx Message-ID: <006701c72319$4bff5e10$6700a8c0@FAST> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I sent in a few Pic's of My Son's first Smoke show with his 1980 AMX in June. Just showed up in Januarys Carcraft. Havn't seen the Pic's yet. Below is a link to the first burn out video with the 304 auto and 2nd gear only. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/wm/37f0f608-6139-4fdd-8256-ad101cf1af3c.h tm I still have to post #2 with the stock 360 auto 3.54. Bryan ------------------------------ Message: 12 Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2006 18:59:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Jennings <tomj@xxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [AMC-List] What's it from/for Metropolitin swap???!!! Cc: AMC-List <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0612181856590.5995@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 19 Dec 2006, farna@xxxxxxx wrote: > Tom, that would be APU (auxilliary power unit). They are > used in aircraft (including larger helicopters) to provide > starting power and ground power in remote locations or for > short periods. I've seen a few. They produce hp at very high rpm > as Andrew pointed out -- no useable torque, and a very narrow > power band. The guy who said his friend stuck one in a bike, took the thing apart and used the turbine and gearbox. That's the key to these things -- they have a gearbox that brings shaft speed down to a few K Rpms for the alternator. I saw one with one cover removed (not much of a view though). The turbine is really small, the APU is 1/2 jet, 1/4 gearbox, 1/4th alternator (vaguely). I agree, without the special gearbox it's uselessly high rpm. ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ AMC-List mailing list AMC-List@xxxxxxxxxxxx http://www.amc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/amc-list End of AMC-List Digest, Vol 11, Issue 42 ****************************************